I did read what you said and you did sympathize with what Orgut said. Despite your attempts to sound rational in this debate, what I have figured is that you indeed approve of the shit that your government does and no matter how much you try to twist it, dead people (those murdered by your government) are "unfortunate collateral damage" to you; Now that's understandable, because you need to find a way to ease your conscience (assuming you are a normal mentally healthy human being). You being saddedned and upset and bla bla bla - I never bought that and will never either. All you do here is justify the unjustifiable. And don't forget, if you have to resort to "we are more powerful" or "we defated them" excuses, you are basically giving up your right to moan about any human disaster that has happened and is happening in the world, because at the core of every disaster is one group being more powerful than the other, and that's how life is I suppose.
Now back to the topic, you are the one who got triggered here by my question, maybe because you thought I was downplaying holocaust, which is fine - I know people like you are used to making such interpretations whenever convenient or useful. In that, you also dodged my question. So you literally did everything you accused me of doing. Well done.