Israeli-Palestinian conflict (35 Viewers)

[Itztli]

Yeah, I know. But still,

Anyway, I Found the interview

Link

 

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[Fred]

Whatever that means.

I don't care what you consider yourself, I care about what you are.

The law does not consider me Scottish, i have a Libyan passport, i might not even be able to get a fucking visa to go to Scotland if i wanted to for fucks sake, how can i be Scottish when i need a visa to go there, a visa that is in no way guaranteed to me

 

[Enron]

Yeah, I know. But still,

Anyway, I Found the interview

Link

Aw Nate. You're a good guy.

 

[ßöмßäяðîëя]

The law does not consider me Scottish, i have a Libyan passport, i might not even be able to get a fucking visa to go to Scotland if i wanted to for fucks sake, how can i be Scottish when i need a visa to go there, a visa that is in no way guaranteed to me

That doesn't mean anything.

Passports are easy to come by, but if I renounce my American citizenship and acquire a German or Irish passport, not hard for someone of my lineage, am I any less American because I don't have a fucking passport?

 

[Fred]

That doesn't mean anything.

Passports are easy to come by, but if I renounce my American citizenship and acquire a German or Irish passport, not hard for someone of my lineage, am I any less American because I don't have a fucking passport?

Apples and oranges, we're two completely different cases in so many ways. My whole family lives in Libya, we speak Arabic(Libyan dialect) at home, we intend on going back to Libya eventually at some point, we all have Libyan passports/nationalities. I have no connection to Scotland, absolutely nothing, other than living there for a while. We don't all have immigrant cultures like America, i could live outside Libya my whole life and still be Libyan.

How about this scenario btw, i lived in Scotland for 7 years, if i go back to Libya and live there for 8 years, do i become Libyan in your eyes?

 

[ALC]

I think the fairest way would be to say that you are from the place you've been born. You can move and relate to other places more and even get different passports and citizenships, but you'll always be born in that one place.

 

[Fred]

Do you know Lille's captain, Rio Mavuba? He was born in International Sea. So where is he from then? All over the world? Or can he just pick any country since he was born in international sea?

 

[JuveJay]

He is the Man from Atlantis?

 

[Fred]

Thats one way to look at it.

 

[ALC]

Well, there's always exceptions to rules I guess. Where is he from then? I just googled and saw his passport says "born at sea" but he considers himself French?

 

[JuveJay]

Thats one way to look at it.

Does he also have webbed hands and feet, and swims like a retard?

 

[ALC]

If by "swim like a retard", you mean "gracefully" then yes, he does "swim like a retard".

 

[JuveJay]

No, I don't mean that.

Israel and Palestine needs to sort it out clubhouse rules, with an arm wrestle.

 

[Vinman]

jews and sums obviously go hand in hand http://www.holocaustresearchproject.org/holoprelude/images/prop4.jpg

not very funny, man.... I saw this in the Holocaust museum in Jerusalem. Some serious propaganda

 

[Bjerknes]

Everything is propaganda unless it's seriously going down on Israeli dick. Fuck them, Vinni.

 

[Trequartista]

Shut up you Western bastard.

YOU are more a hypocrite than anyone else.

Educated, grew up, and lived in mostly Western countries. Only to claim pride and nationalistic nonsense because that's where you think you hail from.

Fact is, if you were Libyan, you would be from Libya. "Libyans are such great people, makes me tear up to see them strive for what's right for us....."

That's easy to say when you grew up in Aberdeen and get about as much info down the pipeline as I do, talking about trouble and strife like you didn't like and live a plush life somewhere else. And that's fine, your parents had that ability, they had that right, and they had the goddamn common sense.

"Man, it was hard being from Decatur!" Yea, that's what I hear, you Seattle-bred son of a bitch.

You want to cry over some hardcore shit, let's see some hardcore shit, let's experience some hardcore shit.

You Monday-morning quarterbacking, bitch-made, house nigger.


True too.

 

[GordoDeCentral]

not very funny, man.... I saw this in the Holocaust museum in Jerusalem. Some serious propaganda

but thats exactly the point it goes both ways, and the other side feels the very same way with your piece of 'propaganda'

 

[ReBeL]

to sum things up....

I love the sad look on the Zionist bitch's face...

I could be too young for this thread, and no one listens to an 18 Year old kid, but I'll bit.

A couple nights ago, I was watching Charlie Rose with Israeli PM Benjamin Netanyahu. They were talking about the whole process towards peace between Israeli & Palestinian, and also on the homeland part. There were two things that stood out for me was that size & forces inside and outside both parties are looking at this with great interest. The First thing people have to understand is that current state of Israel is about the size of New Jersey, right? Netanyahu said that had Israel been the size of France, he would have no problem about giving land to Palestinian, because now they can think on a broader scale about defense & infrastructure. Because of the size they are now, any land within the country becomes evermore important. Another thing is that Interest within & outside both parties. There are some Israeli Nationalist( not my words) that have the idea of greater Israel in mind while some are working towards peace, and Arabs who do care for the Palestinians and others who see this as a way to get rid of the Jews. I see I can find the Video on PBS, because I only caught 20 minutes of it.

You are really too young for this.

Well, I do think that the Middle East is way too much influenced by religion, much like Europe was in the Middle Ages.

During the Middle Ages, there were great intellectuals, philosophers and scientists in the Muslim world, such as Omar Khayyám and Maimonides. Therefore, the potential is certainly there.

I love that you chose a jewish man to express the intellectuality of the Muslim world.

 

[Turk_Bianconero]

to sum things up....

Yeah, they never do such things. They are not motivated by some religious texts which command them to kill and loot two footed animals afterall. Thanks to latest developments in Jewish killing technology, they have found new missiles and chemicals which don't burn children alive but only bad guys.

 

[X Æ A-12]

How is Israel such a powerful country militarily?