Israeli-Palestinian conflict (23 Viewers)
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Are you trying to imply here that jews in the old ages were in fact "israelis" ?
Here's the thing mate, there are many jews out there in the world who are American, Russian, Polish,..etc. With not "israeli" citizenship what so ever and many of them refuse that zionist concept of "the right to return to promise land". So no, they weren't here before contrary to the Arabs who actually were here even 1000 years before those zionists came up with an idea to occupy Palestine. Oh and those jews who were 3000 years ago in Palestine never got kicked out of the country, they simply moved and not by Arabs who didn't really exists back then as the culture that latter came to light.
You weren't the smarter ones, the British simply didn't need you anymore and you became more of a headache than help. Just like the Indians, Pakis, Chinese, Egyptians,...etc. Got rid of the British before. And those got 100% of their land back too :eyebrows:
Here's the thing mate, there are many jews out there in the world who are American, Russian, Polish,..etc. With not "israeli" citizenship what so ever and many of them refuse that zionist concept of "the right to return to promise land". So no, they weren't here before contrary to the Arabs who actually were here even 1000 years before those zionists came up with an idea to occupy Palestine. Oh and those jews who were 3000 years ago in Palestine never got kicked out of the country, they simply moved and not by Arabs who didn't really exists back then as the culture that latter came to light.
You weren't the smarter ones, the British simply didn't need you anymore and you became more of a headache than help. Just like the Indians, Pakis, Chinese, Egyptians,...etc. Got rid of the British before. And those got 100% of their land back too :eyebrows:
They were Israelites.
What you're doing here is quite silly, the Nation-State in the form we have today i.e. Palestine deserves to be a state is a post-Westphalian idea in that it comes from the Peace of Westhphalia in 1648. The 'Mandates' were only endowed with the 'right' to be states post WW2 by the great powers. Now the main point to take away from this is that the land of Palestine has existed in three main forms, firstly a majority israelite kingdom, then a part of greater panarabian empires and then israel (mandate of UK was really just a colony). In the form of a Nation-State there is Israel not Palestine. Regardless of who moved or who stayed the jews have the historical and international 'legal' high-ground.
To put it succinctly, the Israelites have the original claim to the land if we are going down that road, in the same way that Celtic Warriors have a legitimate claim to this country. In Ireland it went Celts-Vikings-Normans-Normans Again-Irish. Saying Palestine is the home to a certain subset of Arabs is like saying that the people of Norman descent should get back all their land from the Modern Irish people. It doesn't matter who was where first or genetically etc. What matters is both sides have claim to land and should be able to live there neither having a birthright.
Oh yeah China got Hong Kong back straight away didn't they? thanks for backing up my point.
Pakistan didn't even exist as a state pre-British pullout how could they have got 100%? Last time I checked British India include pakistan so of course India didn't get 100% of it back they were segregated along the lines of religion...I wonder if that happened in any other British colony.
Ireland was firstly never a help to England it rebelled every decade in large numbers, it bled the Kings purse dry for 700 years. As for the English singing the Anglo-Irish treaty because we were a 'headache' you clearly have read neither accounts of the War or British political views at the time. Ireland above all else was the one colony that couldn't fall. If the shitty little island right next store could do it why not Canada and everybody else?
I'd rather have 81.25% of my Land than let my peoples own stubbornness see us slowly obliterated with comical ease.
What you're doing here is quite silly, the Nation-State in the form we have today i.e. Palestine deserves to be a state is a post-Westphalian idea in that it comes from the Peace of Westhphalia in 1648. The 'Mandates' were only endowed with the 'right' to be states post WW2 by the great powers. Now the main point to take away from this is that the land of Palestine has existed in three main forms, firstly a majority israelite kingdom, then a part of greater panarabian empires and then israel (mandate of UK was really just a colony). In the form of a Nation-State there is Israel not Palestine. Regardless of who moved or who stayed the jews have the historical and international 'legal' high-ground.
To put it succinctly, the Israelites have the original claim to the land if we are going down that road, in the same way that Celtic Warriors have a legitimate claim to this country. In Ireland it went Celts-Vikings-Normans-Normans Again-Irish. Saying Palestine is the home to a certain subset of Arabs is like saying that the people of Norman descent should get back all their land from the Modern Irish people. It doesn't matter who was where first or genetically etc. What matters is both sides have claim to land and should be able to live there neither having a birthright.
Oh yeah China got Hong Kong back straight away didn't they? thanks for backing up my point.
Pakistan didn't even exist as a state pre-British pullout how could they have got 100%? Last time I checked British India include pakistan so of course India didn't get 100% of it back they were segregated along the lines of religion...I wonder if that happened in any other British colony.
Ireland was firstly never a help to England it rebelled every decade in large numbers, it bled the Kings purse dry for 700 years. As for the English singing the Anglo-Irish treaty because we were a 'headache' you clearly have read neither accounts of the War or British political views at the time. Ireland above all else was the one colony that couldn't fall. If the shitty little island right next store could do it why not Canada and everybody else?
I'd rather have 81.25% of my Land than let my peoples own stubbornness see us slowly obliterated with comical ease.
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