I don't wanna discuss Israel. It's just that I get pissed off when Palestine gets all this compassion for something that could have been avoided in the 1st place. If you didn't like the mouse and cobra metaphor, think of it as Balotelli diving in a Juve-Inter game and getting jeered at, and all of Italy starts pointing fingers at Juve tifosi and feeling pity for Balomerda, when he shouldn't have instigated something as big as the Juve ultras' anger in the 1st place... He might as well wear a "boo me" shirt and walk onto the pitch... Now he could label his dives as "trips" or "slipping" or whatever, but all of us, including Interistas, know he was diving...
That's the way I see it.
(Just thought I'd give this forum a homy feel with the Juve-Balo metaphor

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Fuckin helarious really, you can't stand the sympathy regarding about 14-17 international activists losing their lives for the sake of helping a starving people living in un-human conditions where they can't work, eat, live nor breather without their life-long enemies approving that. Well that just speaks of itself doesn't it, you of all people should have heard of what means to be under not only occupation but a lengthy seige, after all you had your fair share of that or most probably your parents did, But still you should have at least pictured this better, or maybe Im just overrating your intellegence.
Just to draw a close picture to your understanding, about 15 families just lost their sons, brothers, sisters,..etc. while those were supposed to be going for a peaceful glorious mission like thousands this world have witnessed. Instead their families are gonna recieve their coffens if they're even lucky to have those since the zionasts could claim those activists had surgeries to hide weapons in their bodies too.(not that they havent done it before)
Sent by Mr. 100%Juventus.
What class Israel!
Israelis don't give a shit about the US. We should let them perish.
You gotta give him credit, he showed his real face (though in a private message) fast, others take longer much longer to do so.
After a long reading here...
IZ,it's okay if your angry,but the situation here(and i live here) is much more complicated than you can ever think of.trust me.
And i'm not saying we're the victims or so,but in many situations that happened we didn't want to just come out and attack.
Calling for Hitller and cursing Israel and jews aren't really smart man...
you need to chill.
Turk,you don't wanna war.you don't.neither do i.i think it's not the way to do things.
Seven,agree with your thoughts here man.great posts.
Oh,as for the ship,just to clarify:
There were other "Aid ships" that came over in the past from other countries.
they never had a problem,to leave the staff at Ashdod port and Israel delivered it to Gazza.
This time,the case was different.
the ships were asked,i repeat again asked,to bring the staff over,at Ashdod and Israel will bring it to Gazza(in case if it's really food and medicine staff),
but the ship ignored and didn't want to stop,neither come to Ashdod!!
what do they have to hide?!if it's only food and medicine.
Btw,the soldiers,when were interviewed,told that "we didn't want to touch them,we wanted to check the ship out,and look that there is nothing wrong and it's really food."
but when they attacked they had to responed.
i don't know if you have seen the video,1 soldier standing alone,doing nothing,6-7 guys come and hit him...btw with knifes also.
Again.we're not victims,but it's not so simple like many think here.
It's not just Israel saw a ship and decided to attack it,i mean wtf,wake up already.
Those ships you're talking about were inspected by the neutral countries' governments they were coming from, not that it would convince you or anything. But just a simple question I ask you, why the fuck would a special force of commandos have the task of "searching" the ship in the cover of darkness AND in international water. It's obvious, Assasination.
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Whoa whoa whoa, you don't hate Zionists, you hate Zionists who are for Israel being a state geographically where it is right now.
I'm a Zionist, I'm just for a separate Jewish state in Antarctica where they can fight their true enemy, the Palestinguins.
Just to get your facts straight, many zionists live abroad of Palestine actually and they do their beloved brothers much help while not only funding them but covering their asses most of the time in both the media and in respective parlements.
That's pretty funny. Some of Israel's biggest enemies share those characteristics.
Yea they do, but I've never heard of one of those barbarians getting away with mass murder and international theft. Have you?
It is not when you are attacked even though I'm not saying this is the case now.
So if he shows you the same picture of an angry Danish mob you wouldn't take Israeli' side? Honestly I don't understand what it has to do with the way you, yourself, see the things.
Good post
I really don't want to justify what happened
nor do I plan to condemn it. But you need to know things about BOTH sides of the story.
Israel's international image has already been spoiled (rightly so) due to the war crimes they commit in Gaza and as you said (and no one even noticed it either intentionally or out of ignorance) there were other aid ships which transmitted goods with no problem so I don't find any logic in attacking the ship this time. Yea I know, Israel don't need excuses to do whatever they want but attacking an aid ship would do harm to them by bringing uproar worldwide and causing an even worse image to the Zionists' image all over the world. Here I'm not necessarily saying that Israeli soldiers were attacked first but I find it stupid if the Israelis attacked the ship with no reason. Too stupid to be taken seriously without waiting for more information.
Honestly, why the hell would you have a problem doing that? Is it that much of non clear picture Hoori? You're the one who always lectures about human rights, freedom and most importantly the right to live. All those were violated here what are you waiting for really? Or is it just backward-reaction since the all famous Najad is compassionate to Palestinians so you just opted to take the other side..
This thread gives me the headache.
Ofcourse it does. You can only read about death and starvation here, just think of people who live that day by day instead of reading it. You might need to raise your Panadol dose thinking of that.
Just to save you so much time, remember that the ships were in international water. Those criminals you are calling soldiers had no reason to go to ships initially. They went just to kill and scare people and steal the ships and the goods. That is the brief story of Isreal. It is all about stealing and lying.
Ra'ed Saleh is alive, have you heard?