Israeli-Palestinian conflict (76 Viewers)

Is Hamas a Terrorist Organization?

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  • Should there be a Jewish nation SOMEWHERE in the world?

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  • Should Israel be a country located in the region it is right now?

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ReBeL

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Jan 14, 2005
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    Beersheba. Maybe it was the end of the month?


    not that good with dates.
    So?

    That attack was since 6 years. Do you hint that Israel has the whole right to make revenge of Palestinians for ever because a bombing took place in 2004?
     
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    ReBeL

    The Jackal
    Jan 14, 2005
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    Let me make it simple for you...

    Were all the Irish fractions so ethical while fighting Britain? Of course not.

    That is the same situation here.

    Does a bombing in a bus in Belfast give the right for Britain to humiliate all the Irish people for ever?
     

    JBF

    اختك يا زمن
    Aug 5, 2006
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    How many kids were lost in Gaza? How many women and children were lost in Sebra and Chettela refugee camp? How many civilians died in Jineen, Nablus and Jerusalem?...etc..


    How many zionist military commanders got a trial? None.
     
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    ReBeL

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    How many kids were lost in Gaza? How many women and children were lost in Sebra and Chettela refugee camp? How many civilians died in Jineen, Nablus and Jerusalem?...etc..


    How many zionist military commanders got a trial? None.
    In Sabra and Shateela, hundreds of Palestinian children were slaughtered by Zionists, but that doesn't qualify as a terrorist act because they were not riding a bus.
     

    IrishZebra

    Western Imperialist
    Jun 18, 2006
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    Let me make it simple for you...

    Were all the Irish fractions so ethical while fighting Britain? Of course not.

    That is the same situation here.

    Does a bombing in a bus in Belfast give the right for Britain to humiliate all the Irish people for ever?
    The Irish factions during the war of independence didn't suicide bomb or kill civilians on purpose, ever.
     
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    ReBeL

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    The Irish factions during the war of independence didn't suicide bomb or kill civilians on purpose, ever.
    Tell that to somebody who may believe it.

    It is not my point to embarrass you but I'm telling you that not the whole people should be punished because of the behavior of some fractions.
     

    IrishZebra

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    Jun 18, 2006
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    Yea, the IRA did that.
    Not the IRA that was the IRB, it's the one after the civil war that was the pIRA, CIRA INLA etc. etc.

    Essentially

    IRB- Freedom Fighters
    IRA- later aspect of Freedom Fighters, one side in Civil War
    INLA,CIRA,pIRA- the Northern Irish factions under the guise but distinct to the IRA, not connected to IRB.
    Tell that to somebody who may believe it.
    Well you've just proven your utter ignorance there. If you are accusing me of knowing nothing about internal struggle and state opression you've obviously never considered the history of this country. Millions, and that is no exaggeration died as a result of British Rule. Thousand suffered pograms,rape,beatings,scalpings, murder in broad daylight,having themselves set alight, being worked to death while everyone around them starved to death. Our forces didn't kill non combatants on purpose, the british did, they fought as you fight, kill men women and children in public places but we fought a guerilla and espionage war, we didn't sink to their level and we got our freedom. Those that wouldn't have wanted freedom were already in Northern Ireland and as such we were partitioned. We don't want it back, it's a tax burden and the northies are assholes but that's beside the point.

    1920 you became a british mandate, i don't know what you would term the Muslim/Persian w/e rule but if we take 90 years ago as the true start of all this then you don't know shit compared to 700 years of it. I live in a free country today because people like you failed in your aims. The british didn't want to negotiate, they tried to call us murderers but it was they that killed the innocents and their barbarism not ours that turned the tide of public opinion against them. I resent you and JBF trying to cheapen their noble sacrifice. It is the suicide bombers et al (and Mossad) that are Cowards
     
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    ReBeL

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    Jan 14, 2005
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    Not the IRA that was the IRB, it's the one after the civil war that was the pIRA, CIRA INLA etc. etc.

    Essentially

    IRB- Freedom Fighters
    IRA- later aspect of Freedom Fighters, one side in Civil War
    INLA,CIRA,pIRA- the Northern Irish factions under the guise but distinct to the IRA, not connected to IRB.


    Well you've just proven your utter ignorance there. If you are accusing me of knowing nothing about internal struggle and state opression you've obviously never considered the history of this country. Millions, and that is no exaggeration died as a result of British Rule. Thousand suffered pograms,rape,beatings,scalpings, murder in broad daylight,having themselves set alight, being worked to death while everyone around them starved to death. Our forces didn't kill non combatants on purpose, the british did, they fought as you fight, kill men women and children in public places but we fought a guerilla and espionage war, we didn't sink to their level and we got our freedom. Those that wouldn't have wanted freedom were already in Northern Ireland and as such we were partitioned. We don't want it back, it's a tax burden and the northies are assholes but that's beside the point.

    1920 you became a british mandate, i don't know what you would term the Muslim/Persian w/e rule but if we take 90 years ago as the true start of all this then you don't know shit compared to 700 years of it. I live in a free country today because people like you failed in your aims. The british didn't want to negotiate, they tried to call us murderers but it was they that killed the innocents and their barbarism not ours that turned the tide of public opinion against them. I resent you and JBF trying to cheapen their noble sacrifice. It is the suicide bombers et al (and Mossad) that are Cowards
    Did you see how you acted when somebody thousands of kilometers far away from you gave you how he sees your people's struggle as something unethical?

    I hope now that you got my point.

    Try not to give exaggerations and generalizations about a whole people without knowing the whole factors in the case.

    Thanks.
     

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