Israeli-Palestinian conflict (61 Viewers)

Is Hamas a Terrorist Organization?

  • Yes

  • No

  • Should there be a Jewish nation SOMEWHERE in the world?

  • Yes

  • No

  • Should Israel be a country located in the region it is right now?

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CheSchifo!

Senior Member
Jan 11, 2009
642
Ok. Let me finish this talk about Nazism and holocaust. Zionism is not the new Nazism. It is another racist movement that is trying to kill civilians and occupy others' lands. Ok?
Even if it was a racist movement that is trying to kill civilians and occupy the land of others, it still would not be Nazism. Dear god, you people are ignorant. Learn a thing or two about Nazism, learn a thing or two about international organisations and then come back.

"Zionism is the new Nazism"

"The EU should defend human rights"

THE UN, REBEL, NOT THE EU.

Where the fuck do you come up with this shit to begin with?

And so do you, you little twit.

Especially with how you say I have to support Obama when you were the one complaining about blind support of politicians throughout the years.

Full fledged hypocrite yourself, Andries.
I complain about blind support. I don't complain about support. But that's too complex for you to understand, as you like to generalise.
 

Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
116,302
Yeah, that's EXACTLY what keeps this going on. Reasonable people trying to come up with rational and pragmatic solutions.
It is, actually. That's why Israel continues to do what they do, that's why the US gets to have a stranglehold over everything, that's why Bush can get pardoned no matter what he does, etc, through "reasonable" solutions that do not fit the crime.

As I said to Martin, shove it up your ass, Andries.
 

Martin

Senior Member
Dec 31, 2000
56,913
Middle ground is the reason why this stuff goes on.

I'm an extremist? OK.
No, extremism is the reason this goes on. Israel says "we don't recognize the Palestinian government". PLO says "we don't recognize Israel". Wtf do you think is gonna happen? If the US and Canada exchanged the same greetings, what do you think would be the outcome? Peace and happiness?

As one man put it "War is the cowardly escape from the problems of peace." See, peace, that's where it starts. And then war occurs. Not the other way around.
 

CheSchifo!

Senior Member
Jan 11, 2009
642
It is, actually. That's why Israel continues to do what they do, that's why the US gets to have a stranglehold over everything, that's why Bush can get pardoned no matter what he does, etc, through "reasonable" solutions that do not fit the crime.

As I said to Martin, shove it up your ass, Andries.
Am I talking to a 12 year old now? A bit of realism might help you, Andy.

You don't have a fucking clue what you're talking about, do you.

"The Holocaust did not exist. Filthy Jews came to take our land just for the fun of it. Israel should be punished by the EU for violating human rights I don't believe in. Oh, US controls everything."

Yes, it is obvious that this is the only rational idea of what is going on.
 

CheSchifo!

Senior Member
Jan 11, 2009
642
No, extremism is the reason this goes on. Israel says "we don't recognize the Palestinian government". PLO says "we don't recognize Israel". Wtf do you think is gonna happen? If the US and Canada exchanged the same greetings, what do you think would be the outcome? Peace and happiness?

As one man put it "War is the cowardly escape from the problems of peace." See, peace, that's where it starts. And then war occurs. Not the other way around.
Come on, Martin, we all know that being moderate is exactly what causes a war.
 

Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
116,302
No, extremism is the reason this goes on. Israel says "we don't recognize the Palestinian government". PLO says "we don't recognize Israel". Wtf do you think is gonna happen? If the US and Canada exchanged the same greetings, what do you think would be the outcome? Peace and happiness?

As one man put it "War is the cowardly escape from the problems of peace." See, peace, that's where it starts. And then war occurs. Not the other way around.
Yeah, Great job the "middle ground UN" has done to solve problems.

Come back to me when middle ground doesn't screw over a certain people and we can all live in happiness.

There isn't anything called middle ground.
 
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ReBeL

The Jackal
Jan 14, 2005
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    Bjerknes

    "Top Economist"
    Mar 16, 2004
    116,302
    Am I talking to a 12 year old now? A bit of realism might help you, Andy.




    "The Holocaust did not exist. Filthy Jews came to take our land just for the fun of it. Israel should be punished by the EU for violating human rights I don't believe in. Oh, US controls everything."

    Yes, it is obvious that this is the only rational idea of what is going on.
    Now you're equating me with others in this thread?

    I agree that the Holocaust did happen.
     

    CheSchifo!

    Senior Member
    Jan 11, 2009
    642
    Yeah, Great job the "middle ground UN" has done to solve problems.

    Come back to me when middle ground doesn't screw over a certain people and we can all live in happiness.

    There isn't anything called middle ground.
    The UN is not the cause of the war though. And that's what it all comes down: you just have to accept your own responsibility. Instead people are shouting that the UN should solve things. As if it's that easy to solve things without the cooperation of the Palestinians and Israelis. It would certainly be impossible for the UN to drive the Israelis out of Israel. Not to mention the global outrage it would cause among Jews. But you are too irrational to realise any of that.

    And for the record: the UN has done a better job than anyone else trying to solve the problems.
     

    CheSchifo!

    Senior Member
    Jan 11, 2009
    642
    Thanks, Jack.

    May I ask from any moderator to warn anybody that mentions holocaust in this thread again? We are talking about a crime in 2009. Why should we be reminded of the holocaust in each post as if the people in Gaza should pay for what Germans did?

    Stop it.
    YOU JUST COMPARED ZIONISTS TO NAZISTS! WHAT THE FUCK?
     

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