Israeli-Palestinian conflict (47 Viewers)

[Snoop]

I see this thread has degenerated into a pissing fest of people who don't know what they're talking about, so there isn't anything to add besides shut the hell up.

It's not like you are any objective here, you always take sides. One year back you would have said total opposite of what you are saying now, and today you hate and stand against everything your leaders say/do.

Don't get offended, but that's how you think. None of these sides are innocent Andy, we can't believe a side and ignore what the same side did all these years.

I am not part of this pissing fest, but a lot of bullshit is being said in this thread, and I am just expressing my opinion when I see these bullshits. You can see it clearly how retarded it is getting, they are even denying Holocaust ffs..

 

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[ReBeL]

I can say that to 85% of the 3500 something posts in this thread.

Jack, did you hear about the small rebellion in one of Tripoli prisons this evening? DO you have any idea what that is about?

 

[Martin]

I can say that to 85% of the 3500 something posts in this thread.

what about the forum as a whole?

 

[Snoop]

Seriously, if somebody has a point to discuss, I'm open to discuss. If it is just mocking and joking, I think we got our share of that in this thread already.

I am not sure you want to discuss with any opinion that opposes yours. You insulted me many times, and I never hit you back. I never joked about what Palestinians are suffering, and I don't believe anyone did. Probably I mocked against Racist/nationalist ideas, and I stand behind what I said.

 

[JCK]

Jack, did you hear about the small rebellion in one of Tripoli prisons this evening? DO you have any idea what that is about?

Nothing at all. I'll see what I'll find.

what about the forum as a whole?

The forum as a whole is fun.

 

[Bjerknes]

It's not like you are any objective here, you always take sides. One year back you would have said total opposite of what you are saying now, and today you hate and stand against everything your leaders say/do.

Don't get offended, but that's how you think. None of these sides are innocent Andy, we can't believe a side and ignore what the same side did all these years.

I am not part of this pissing fest, but a lot of bullshit is being said in this thread, and I am just expressing my opinion when I see these bullshits. You can see it clearly how retarded it is getting, they are even denying Holocaust ffs..

That's not true. I have never supported Israel bombing innocent people.

But the fact of the matter is you and others are trying to find some way to defend Israel, pulling things out of your ass that are totally retarded, like pictures of Hamas training soldiers and kids to blow up Israel, like they're terrorists and NOT part of the conditioning that has took place over the last 60 or so years. They're a product of their environment, something that was even perhaps installed by Israel themselves, so it doesn't matter what they teach their children because Israel teaches it themselves.

And if you can't understand that, then you haven't even learned from your own history.

 

[Bjerknes]

Seriously, who gives a fuck about the Holocaust.

Tired of hearing about it.

 

[CheSchifo!]

That's not true. I have never supported Israel bombing innocent people.

But the fact of the matter is you and others are trying to find some way to defend Israel, pulling things out of your ass that are totally retarded, like pictures of Hamas training soldiers and kids to blow up Israel, like they're terrorists and NOT part of the conditioning that has took place over the last 60 or so years. They're a product of their environment, something that was even perhaps installed by Israel themselves, so it doesn't matter what they teach their children because Israel teaches it themselves.

And if you can't understand that, then you haven't even learned from your own history.

This is what annoys me. None of us have defended Israel. We're attacking you and ReB and others, for statements that are absurd and farfetched. Zionism is NOT the new Nazism. It hasn't even got the same basic characteristics. It's bollocks coming from people who are frustrated. And I accept that frustration and I'm not going to hold it against any of you, but it doesn't make your rantings any more logical or just.

 

[JCK]

It's been controlled, Rebel

http://www.naharnet.com/domino/tn/NewsDesk.nsf/getstory?openform&B648FA746B0104C3C22575490063CF9F

 

[CheSchifo!]

Seriously, who gives a fuck about the Holocaust.

Tired of hearing about it.

This conflict is WAY less important than the Holocaust. It doesn't even come close.

So why give a fuck about this one? Is it because there's a certain political agenda to it? Is it because it happens to be convenient?

 

[Martin]

That's not true. I have never supported Israel bombing innocent people.

But the fact of the matter is you and others are trying to find some way to defend Israel, pulling things out of your ass that are totally retarded, like pictures of Hamas training soldiers and kids to blow up Israel, like they're terrorists and NOT part of the conditioning that has took place over the last 60 or so years. They're a product of their environment, something that was even perhaps installed by Israel themselves, so it doesn't matter what they teach their children because Israel teaches it themselves.

And if you can't understand that, then you haven't even learned from your own history.

I'm afraid Snoop is right, Andy. There's no middle ground with you, you always throw yourself into a corner. How ridiculous is it to say that Israel is the sole evil in this struggle and all that has come out of the Palestinian end is a product of what Israel did first?

 

[Bjerknes]

This is what annoys me. None of us have defended Israel. We're attacking you and ReB and others, for statements that are absurd and farfetched. Zionism is NOT the new Nazism. It hasn't even got the same basic characteristics. It's bollocks coming from people who are frustrated. And I accept that frustration and I'm not going to hold it against any of you, but it doesn't make your rantings any more logical or just.

It's the same fucking thing. Nazism basically equals Zionism through methodologies and ideals.

That's not farfetched, it's the truth.

 

[CheSchifo!]

I'm afraid Snoop is right, Andy. There's no middle ground with you, you always throw yourself into a corner. How ridiculous is it to say that Israel is the sole evil in this struggle and all that has come out of the Palestinian end is a product of what Israel did first?

Andy bounces around from one selfconstructed ideology to another.

 

[CheSchifo!]

It's the same fucking thing. Nazism basically equals Zionism through methodologies and ideals.

That's not farfetched, it's the truth.

Oh really?

Such as?

Is it the common will to construct an Arian empire?

 

[Bjerknes]

I'm afraid Snoop is right, Andy. There's no middle ground with you, you always throw yourself into a corner. How ridiculous is it to say that Israel is the sole evil in this struggle and all that has come out of the Palestinian end is a product of what Israel did first?

Well then fuck you then.

I'm taking the side of innocent people enslaved inside of segregation walls here.

Take your "unbiased middle ground" and shove it, Martin.

 

[CheSchifo!]

Well then fuck you then.

I'm taking the side of innocent people enslaved inside of segregation walls here.

Take your "unbiased middle ground" and shove it, Martin.

Yeah,

come on, we all know international politics are about good vs evil, Martin.

 

[ReBeL]

Zionism is NOT the new Nazism.

Ok. Let me finish this talk about Nazism and holocaust. Zionism is not the new Nazism. It is another racist movement that is trying to kill civilians and occupy others' lands. Ok?

 

[Bjerknes]

Andy bounces around from one selfconstructed ideology to another.

And so do you, you little twit.

Especially with how you say I have to support Obama when you were the one complaining about blind support of politicians throughout the years.

Full fledged hypocrite yourself, Andries.

 

[Martin]

Well then fuck you then.

I'm taking the side of innocent people enslaved inside of segregation walls here.

Take your "unbiased middle ground" and shove it, Martin.

See what I mean about middle ground?

You're an extremist and you love it, just admit it

 

[Snoop]

That's not true. I have never supported Israel bombing innocent people.

But the fact of the matter is you and others are trying to find some way to defend Israel, pulling things out of your ass that are totally retarded, like pictures of Hamas training soldiers and kids to blow up Israel, like they're terrorists and NOT part of the conditioning that has took place over the last 60 or so years. They're a product of their environment, something that was even perhaps installed by Israel themselves, so it doesn't matter what they teach their children because Israel teaches it themselves.

And if you can't understand that, then you haven't even learned from your own history.

my own history? lol I am not a Palestinian.

I don't think you are in any better position to tell me that I don't know their history, I am not sure about that, I know their mentality and how it works much much better than you. Not that I am a smartass, but I live close to the area (that had the same problems and still have), and I know exactly how they brainwash the people here, the whole process starts with kids when they are 12 year old.

btw, who is installed by Israelis, Hamas? I am not sure Rebel will like that