Israeli-Palestinian conflict (50 Viewers)

[Bjerknes]

Oh really?

Such as?

Is it the common will to construct an Arian empire?

It's the common will to construct a faux Jewish empire.

So you answered your own damn question.

 

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[CheSchifo!]

Ok. Let me finish this talk about Nazism and holocaust. Zionism is not the new Nazism. It is another racist movement that is trying to kill civilians and occupy others' lands. Ok?

Even if it was a racist movement that is trying to kill civilians and occupy the land of others, it still would not be Nazism. Dear god, you people are ignorant. Learn a thing or two about Nazism, learn a thing or two about international organisations and then come back.

"Zionism is the new Nazism"

"The EU should defend human rights"

THE UN, REBEL, NOT THE EU.

Where the fuck do you come up with this shit to begin with?

And so do you, you little twit.

Especially with how you say I have to support Obama when you were the one complaining about blind support of politicians throughout the years.

Full fledged hypocrite yourself, Andries.

I complain about blind support. I don't complain about support. But that's too complex for you to understand, as you like to generalise.

 

[Bjerknes]

See what I mean about middle ground?

You're an extremist and you love it, just admit it

Middle ground is the reason why this stuff goes on.

I'm an extremist? OK.

 

[CheSchifo!]

It's the common will to construct a faux Jewish empire.

So you answered your own damn question.

Are you aware of what the word Arian means?

Are you aware of what the word Jew means?

Look it up, Andy.

 

[Bjerknes]

I complain about blind support. I don't complain about support. But that's too complex for you to understand, as you like to generalise.

Everybody here knows you generalize too, just ask any of the Muslim or Arab members here.

 

[CheSchifo!]

Middle ground is the reason why this stuff goes on.

I'm an extremist? OK.

Yeah, that's EXACTLY what keeps this going on. Reasonable people trying to come up with rational and pragmatic solutions.

 

[Bjerknes]

Are you aware of what the word Arian means?

Are you aware of what the word Jew means?

Look it up, Andy.

Stupid response dude. Try a bit harder, you mug.

 

[Snoop]

Well then fuck you then.

I'm taking the side of innocent people enslaved inside of segregation walls here.

by wishing death to Israelis and denying holocaust? weren't they (holocaust's victims) innocents too, or they are evil now because their grandchildren became evil?

 

[CheSchifo!]

Stupid response dude. Try a bit harder, you mug.

You think they are interchangeable, don't you?

 

[Bjerknes]

Yeah, that's EXACTLY what keeps this going on. Reasonable people trying to come up with rational and pragmatic solutions.

It is, actually. That's why Israel continues to do what they do, that's why the US gets to have a stranglehold over everything, that's why Bush can get pardoned no matter what he does, etc, through "reasonable" solutions that do not fit the crime.

As I said to Martin, shove it up your ass, Andries.

 

[Bjerknes]

by wishing death to Israelis and denying holocaust? weren't they (holocaust's victims) innocents too, or they are evil now because their grandchildren became evil?

You don't have a fucking clue what you're talking about, do you.

 

[Martin]

Middle ground is the reason why this stuff goes on.

I'm an extremist? OK.

No, extremism is the reason this goes on. Israel says "we don't recognize the Palestinian government". PLO says "we don't recognize Israel". Wtf do you think is gonna happen? If the US and Canada exchanged the same greetings, what do you think would be the outcome? Peace and happiness?

As one man put it "War is the cowardly escape from the problems of peace." See, peace, that's where it starts. And then war occurs. Not the other way around.

 

[Snoop]

You don't have a fucking clue what you're talking about, do you.

ok

 

[CheSchifo!]

It is, actually. That's why Israel continues to do what they do, that's why the US gets to have a stranglehold over everything, that's why Bush can get pardoned no matter what he does, etc, through "reasonable" solutions that do not fit the crime.

As I said to Martin, shove it up your ass, Andries.

Am I talking to a 12 year old now? A bit of realism might help you, Andy.

You don't have a fucking clue what you're talking about, do you.

"The Holocaust did not exist. Filthy Jews came to take our land just for the fun of it. Israel should be punished by the EU for violating human rights I don't believe in. Oh, US controls everything."

Yes, it is obvious that this is the only rational idea of what is going on.

 

[CheSchifo!]

No, extremism is the reason this goes on. Israel says "we don't recognize the Palestinian government". PLO says "we don't recognize Israel". Wtf do you think is gonna happen? If the US and Canada exchanged the same greetings, what do you think would be the outcome? Peace and happiness?

As one man put it "War is the cowardly escape from the problems of peace." See, peace, that's where it starts. And then war occurs. Not the other way around.

Come on, Martin, we all know that being moderate is exactly what causes a war.

 

[Bjerknes]

No, extremism is the reason this goes on. Israel says "we don't recognize the Palestinian government". PLO says "we don't recognize Israel". Wtf do you think is gonna happen? If the US and Canada exchanged the same greetings, what do you think would be the outcome? Peace and happiness?

As one man put it "War is the cowardly escape from the problems of peace." See, peace, that's where it starts. And then war occurs. Not the other way around.

Yeah, Great job the "middle ground UN" has done to solve problems.

Come back to me when middle ground doesn't screw over a certain people and we can all live in happiness.

There isn't anything called middle ground.

 

[ReBeL]

It's been controlled, Rebel

http://www.naharnet.com/domino/tn/NewsDesk.nsf/getstory?openform&B648FA746B0104C3C22575490063CF9F

Thanks, Jack.

May I ask from any moderator to warn anybody that mentions holocaust in this thread again? We are talking about a crime in 2009. Why should we be reminded of the holocaust in each post as if the people in Gaza should pay for what Germans did?

Stop it.

 

[Bjerknes]

Am I talking to a 12 year old now? A bit of realism might help you, Andy.




"The Holocaust did not exist. Filthy Jews came to take our land just for the fun of it. Israel should be punished by the EU for violating human rights I don't believe in. Oh, US controls everything."

Yes, it is obvious that this is the only rational idea of what is going on.

Now you're equating me with others in this thread?

I agree that the Holocaust did happen.

 

[CheSchifo!]

Yeah, Great job the "middle ground UN" has done to solve problems.

Come back to me when middle ground doesn't screw over a certain people and we can all live in happiness.

There isn't anything called middle ground.

The UN is not the cause of the war though. And that's what it all comes down: you just have to accept your own responsibility. Instead people are shouting that the UN should solve things. As if it's that easy to solve things without the cooperation of the Palestinians and Israelis. It would certainly be impossible for the UN to drive the Israelis out of Israel. Not to mention the global outrage it would cause among Jews. But you are too irrational to realise any of that.

And for the record: the UN has done a better job than anyone else trying to solve the problems.

 

[CheSchifo!]

Thanks, Jack.

May I ask from any moderator to warn anybody that mentions holocaust in this thread again? We are talking about a crime in 2009. Why should we be reminded of the holocaust in each post as if the people in Gaza should pay for what Germans did?

Stop it.

YOU JUST COMPARED ZIONISTS TO NAZISTS! WHAT THE FUCK?