Israeli-Palestinian conflict (45 Viewers)

[ReBeL]

for what? being objective? thanx!

Objective??

What do you want from people that are under occupation since 60 years?

Do you want them to lift olive leaves 24 hours a day??

These are humans that have blood and emotions.

When the kids lose their lands and fathers while the gay world watches, you can't expect them to act like usual kids.

You were alive during the first Intefada between 1987 and 1994. Palestinians tried to show the world what their enemy is using peaceful tools like demonstrations and throwing stones on the tanks, but what was the result?

 

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[ReBeL]

An Israeli minister today: Prime Minister of Gaza won't be able to walk in the streets of Gaza unless the Israeli prisoner is freed.

 

[CheSchifo!]

Objective??

What do you want from people that are under occupation since 60 years?

Do you want them to lift olive leaves 24 hours a day??

These are humans that have blood and emotions.

When the kids lose their lands and fathers while the gay world watches, you can't expect them to act like usual kids.

You were alive during the first Intefada between 1987 and 1994. Palestinians tried to show the world what their enemy is using peaceful tools like demonstrations and throwing stones on the tanks, but what was the result?

So your idea of a peaceful tool is throwing stones.

I suppose stoning is misunderstood and is actually a gentle death.

Sounds quite barbaric, though.

 

[ReBeL]

So your idea of a peaceful tool is throwing stones.

I suppose stoning is misunderstood and is actually a gentle death.

Sounds quite barbaric, though.

Pardon them for using a barbaric stone against gentle tanks.

 

[CheSchifo!]

I didn't say it was wrong.

But throwing stones is not peaceful. No matter how you might twist it.

 

[Snoop]

Objective??

What do you want from people that are under occupation since 60 years?

Do you want them to lift olive leaves 24 hours a day??

These are humans that have blood and emotions.

When the kids lose their lands and fathers while the gay world watches, you can't expect them to act like usual kids.

You were alive during the first Intefada between 1987 and 1994. Palestinians tried to show the world what their enemy is using peaceful tools like demonstrations and throwing stones on the tanks, but what was the result?

what this has to do with what I said?

I said what happened with Jews at 40's isn't the same what is happening with Palestinians today, opposite of what he told with those pictures. Jews were not firing missiles to the Nazis, they weren't even fighting back..

 

[ReBeL]

what this has to do with what I said?

I said what happened with Jews at 40's isn't the same what is happening with Palestinians today, opposite of what he told with those pictures. Jews were not firing missiles to the Nazis, they weren't even fighting back..

So firing a missile justifies killing children?

 

[Snoop]

oh Jesus..

 

[Zé Tahir]

Reb, why do you even bother? They will never understand.

 

[Snoop]

Reb, why do you even bother? They will never understand.

you sure it's us who don't understand or you guys? I know very well Muslims stick together all the time, no matter what. I know very well you guys take sides and don't look objectively, so maybe us should not bother.

1- Israeli government and the current and past leaders are criminals, they need to be punished, they don't care about the civilians when they fight there enemies, Hamas!

2- Hamas are terrorists organization, they don't fight the enemy, but they kill innocent Israeli citizens, with bombs and throwing missiles randomly.

3- Palestinians are victims, and deserve a land.

4- Israeli citizens are not the ones to be blamed for their government's actions, well at least not all of them, if you think otherwise then you are generalizing, and if you think all Israeli citizens who are dying by those missiles and the bombs that they deserve it, then you are supporting terrorism.


It is this simple..

 

[ReBeL]

Reb, why do you even bother? They will never understand.

You are right, bro.

They are just hopeless.

 

[Lawnchair Bes]

funny how that is probably the only thing we agree on

 

[Martin]

Reb, why do you even bother? They will never understand.

I think I understand pretty well, courtesy of that "should Israel exist poll". Basically, it's totally cool for countries to assert their territories by force. Except when my country is getting screwed. And Israel is guilty of the worst crime of all, because they were granted territory and they didn't even have to kill anyone.

Will you guys ever step out of your partisanship?

 

[Snoop]

According to Rebel, whoever occupies a land, it's people deserve to die. Rebel said he understands us Armenians very well of what we suffered by the Ottomans, so with his logic, he says I should fire missiles and kill as much as Turks possible who occupied our lands, in the end they deserve to die (this is his quote). but at the same time, Rebel's favorite empire are the Ottomans themselves, and he wants them back.

 

[ReBeL]

I think I understand pretty well, courtesy of that "should Israel exist poll". Basically, it's totally cool for countries to assert their territories by force. Except when my country is getting screwed. And Israel is guilty of the worst crime of all, because they were granted territory and they didn't even have to kill anyone.

Will you guys ever step out of your partisanship?

I didn't understand what you want.

According to Rebel, whoever occupies a land, it's people deserve to die. Rebel said he understands us Armenians very well of what we suffered by the Ottomans, so with his logic, he says I should fire missiles and kill as much as Turks possible who occupied our lands, in the end they deserve to die (this is his quote). but at the same time, Rebel's favorite empire are the Ottomans themselves, and he wants them back.

You just want to make revenge from me just because I said Ottomans were better than our current rulers. I said they were better for the Arab countries. I didn't say that they were the best occupiers for Armenians. Don't claim that, and yes, I condone any act that your people could do to force Ottomans out of Armenia if Turks were really making crimes on your land.

Don't put words in my mouth again.

 

[Lawnchair Bes]

and israel is claiming to be the best for jewish people and palestine should force them out

 

[Bjerknes]

I see this thread has degenerated into a pissing fest of people who don't know what they're talking about, so there isn't anything to add besides shut the hell up.

 

[Snoop]

You just want to make revenge from me

you are sick if you seriously think so.

just because I said Ottomans were better than our current rulers. I said they were better for the Arab countries. I didn't say that they were the best occupiers for Armenians.

So you only care about Arabs? You don't care what they do to non-Arabs? Am I understanding that you wouldn't mind if a someone like Hitler comes and rules the Arabs, and make you the strongest on earth, and at the same time, he does genocides against Israeli, and other non-Arab or non-Muslim nations? or am I still "putting words in your mouth?"

Don't claim that, and yes, I condone any act that your people could do to force Ottomans out of Armenia if Turks were really making crimes on your land.

Don't put words in my mouth again.

now you are not sure if ottomans really did crimes against Armenians? but you still understand us Armenians? now this is getting interesting.

 

[JCK]

I see this thread has degenerated into a pissing fest of people who don't know what they're talking about, so there isn't anything to add besides shut the hell up.

I can say that to 85% of the 3500 something posts in this thread.

 

[ReBeL]

I see this thread has degenerated into a pissing fest of people who don't know what they're talking about, so there isn't anything to add besides shut the hell up.

Seriously, if somebody has a point to discuss, I'm open to discuss. If it is just mocking and joking, I think we got our share of that in this thread already.