Israeli-Palestinian conflict (143 Viewers)

Is Hamas a Terrorist Organization?

  • Yes

  • No

  • Should there be a Jewish nation SOMEWHERE in the world?

  • Yes

  • No

  • Should Israel be a country located in the region it is right now?

  • Yes

  • No


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zizinho

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Apr 14, 2013
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i dont know how he became "caliph" of that "state" (he was probably their leader from the very beginning and it stayed that way, not sure) but i do know that he doesent have support majority of muslims and scholars so he has no right to call himself a caliph.
Edit: i just saw that ReBeL explained it better :D
 

Osman

Koul Khara!
Aug 30, 2002
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Just a theological question, by what legitimation does Ibrahim, the caliph proclaimed by ISIS draw his title from? From what I understand, the major inner conflict between muslim groups has been the question of by which mechanism the caliph should be chosen, with Schiits claiming it should be the successor of Mohammeds cousin (?) Ali and the Sunnits claiming he should be elected.

Now ISIS is Sunnit, right? Has there been any "election", or by what theological ground does ISIS and Ibrahim legitimise his position as Caliph?
None whatsoever, has no one's support, no parties are stupid/crazy enough to support him. Not even Al Qaida. In fact its leader Al Zawahiri called for the disbandment of ISIS, after he proclaimed Al Nusra front in Syria (jihadist group thats branch of Al Qaida) as part of ISIS, when they said gtfo, he took most of them out by force more or less. whatever he has and proclaims he either does out of pure delusion or takes it by force. In a nutshell he's just a madman hungry for power.
 

Linebreak

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Sep 18, 2009
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Juventino[RUS];4661481 said:
these propalestinians are pathetic
Who was in Palestine first, David or Goliath the Palestinian? Or do you now believe God promised the land to the Jews? So you believe in God now?

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Juventino[RUS];4661483 said:
Brainwashed arab is brainwashed arab

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Wow you just showed how peaceful the poor Palestinians are.

It took the Palestinians 15 years to kill the same amount of people Israel kills on a daily basis.
 
Mar 9, 2006
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Who was in Palestine first, David or Goliath the Palestinian? Or do you now believe God promised the land to the Jews? So you believe in God now?
lol no, they built their kingdom there without any god or whatever, but you can find the mentions about it and why they divided their kingdom in the bible , it have nothing in common with god promising and with other religion crap
 

Linebreak

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Sep 18, 2009
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Juventino[RUS];4661485 said:
lol no, they built their kingdom there without any god or whatever, but you can find the mentions about it and why they divided their kingdom in the bible , it have nothing in common with god promising and with other religion crap
But they took the land from Goliath the PALESTINIAN!

So who was there first :)
 
Mar 9, 2006
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Who was in Palestine first, David or Goliath the Palestinian? Or do you now believe God promised the land to the Jews? So you believe in God now?

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Wow you just showed how peaceful the poor Palestinians are.

It took the Palestinians 15 years to kill the same amount of people Israel kills on a daily basis.
Because Israel built the wall and now using technology to stop this terrorists, thanks to 21st century and it technical progress
 

Linebreak

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Sep 18, 2009
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Juventino[RUS];4661489 said:
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please continue

Goliath is a giant Philistine warrior defeated by the young David, the future King of Israel, in the Bible's Books of Samuel (1 Samuel 17).
Wikipedia.

You should be banned for supporting the cold blooded murdering of children. You need very serious help.
 

Zacheryah

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Aug 29, 2010
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Juventino[RUS];4661487 said:
Because Israel built the wall and now using technology to stop this terrorists, thanks to 21st century and it technical progress
A wall wich is illegal according to international law, and wich is deep into palestina terrotiry, with the natural resources conveniently at israely side


But hey, lets wonder why after 5 decades of this crap, the people from israel got so desperate by beeing oppressed that they voted for a terrorist organisation
 
Mar 9, 2006
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A wall wich is illegal according to international law, and wich is deep into palestina terrotiry, with the natural resources conveniently at israely side


But hey, lets wonder why after 5 decades of this crap, the people from israel got so desperate by beeing oppressed that they voted for a terrorist organisation
nothing is illegal if you have to protect your own territory and people against terrorists
 

Zacheryah

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Aug 29, 2010
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Juventino[RUS];4661495 said:
nothing is illegal if you have to protect your own territory and people against terrorists
How odd that when it comes down to the ukraine situation, you completely contradict this opinion.


Do you get a raging erecting by deliberatly opposing the majority to get attention ?
 
Mar 9, 2006
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Goliath is a giant Philistine warrior defeated by the young David, the future King of Israel, in the Bible's Books of Samuel (1 Samuel 17).
Wikipedia.

You should be banned for supporting the cold blooded murdering of children. You need very serious help.
First of all, i don't believe in this crap about goliath, 2nd of all, he was philistine in bible, amalek in quran, and probably somebody else in other religion fairy tales

if you support terrorism you get what you deserve, for them their god > children, so why the hell you are even care? in their logic since they worship to allah and dying in the jihad wars they are all in heaven in their afterlife

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How odd that when it comes down to the ukraine situation, you completely contradict this opinion.


Do you get a raging erecting by deliberatly opposing the majority to get attention ?
I support ukrainian government, russian citizens went to donbass, brainwashed people of the donbass that new Kyiv government is 2nd coming of Hitler and now they are fighting against ukrainian army just because putin's friend yanukovich was removed and Vladimir wants revenge or something, he is fucking crazy son of a bitch
 

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