Israeli-Palestinian conflict (49 Viewers)

Is Hamas a Terrorist Organization?

  • Yes

  • No

  • Should there be a Jewish nation SOMEWHERE in the world?

  • Yes

  • No

  • Should Israel be a country located in the region it is right now?

  • Yes

  • No


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Orgut

Senior Member
Dec 31, 2002
19,488
I'm not saying Hamas are cool and all, but if someone conquers my land I bet there will be some guarella or partizans or some other kind of fighters that will come up. And I'm not saying that their actions of violence are justified, because they are not. But the main cause of the violence of Hamas or any other group that fights the conquerors if their land are the conquerors themselfs not "terrorism" and in this case it's Israel.

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http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-28582853

:lol:

They have not even the slightest regard to the international opinions and are doing whatever they think of. I'm curious how far can they go with this kind of disregard, there surely has to be a limit somewhere no?
Well in this case if they dont destroy those tunnels life of many civilians are in jeopardy so yes they should destroy all the tunnels
As for Hamas "not cool" its an understatement at the very least!
Israel are shooting at houses and places that Hamas put weapons in
Hamas are shooting missiles at civilians
If Hamas want to "stop Israel`s so called occupation..." they should aim at military and not civilians!
As for sacrificing their own civilians how can they represent how aren`t there Palestinian organizations that fights Hamas`s despicable acts!
 

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Raz

Senior Member
Nov 20, 2005
12,218
Well in this case if they dont destroy those tunnels life of many civilians are in jeopardy so yes they should destroy all the tunnels
As for Hamas "not cool" its an understatement at the very least!
Israel are shooting at houses and places that Hamas put weapons in
Hamas are shooting missiles at civilians
If Hamas want to "stop Israel`s so called occupation..." they should aim at military and not civilians!
As for sacrificing their own civilians how can they represent how aren`t there Palestinian organizations that fights Hamas`s despicable acts!
Well it's good that one or two israeli civilians are shitting pants, we can't have that! Better make all the population in gaza spewing blood, good fucking plan.

Balded part is as retarded as it gets coming from an israeli.
 

Alen

Ѕenior Аdmin
Apr 2, 2007
54,131
The topic was discussed in the past here iirc. I still, though, can't understand the settlers. It's one thing to want to gtfo of Moldova, where life is safe but there is no prosperity. Still, Jews are leaving countries where life is at worst decent, just to go live in some settlement in the middle of nowhere. No money and no economic help from the government can make me go live somewhere where rockets are flying above my head and I need to go to a shelter every now and then.

Would you guys live here:
 

Orgut

Senior Member
Dec 31, 2002
19,488
so called occupation? :lol: how $#@!ing delusional can you be, no orgut it's not occupation your people have been there for millennia
I was referring to their agenda..

Unfortunately they are under.. but the situation there is Hamas`s doing as he could have used the money for food and etc instead of rockets
 

Enron

Tickle Me
Moderator
Oct 11, 2005
75,708
Which makes them very brave. They are not self-dependent so doing something like this puts their entire country at risk of economic boycotts and the like.
Then again, it's Bolivia. They say crazy shit all the time. Their president would challenge Bush to fights on weekly basis back in the day. No one cares about Bolivia. If a more influential nation with more to lose said the same thing then you could consider that to be brave.
 

Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
116,999
At this point, is there really anyone actually supporting Israel that isn't connected in some way to it? On my news feed it's only the Jews that continue to post propaganda bull$#@!.
Nope, even CNN is showing the Palestinian view much more frequently, even since the last conflict. Even Democrats I know (apart from the traitorous wannabe Israelis) are now sick of Israel's antics. The only other group supporting IsraHell are the usual Neo-Cons.

The topic was discussed in the past here iirc. I still, though, can't understand the settlers. It's one thing to want to gtfo of Moldova, where life is safe but there is no prosperity. Still, Jews are leaving countries where life is at worst decent, just to go live in some settlement in the middle of nowhere. No money and no economic help from the government can make me go live somewhere where rockets are flying above my head and I need to go to a shelter every now and then.

Would you guys live here:
:lol:

Hell no, but if the Israel lovers in other countries want to go live there, then PLEASE, get the fuuck out of here. Especially the Neo-Clowns and IDF-wannabees.
 

Zacheryah

Senior Member
Aug 29, 2010
42,251
One of the biggest issues from european point of view, is the location of tha ballsack.


Basically, its in Germany, UK and more recently Holland.


The issue is that :

- Germany doesnt comments on jews considering they killed a good amount
- The dutch dont comment on jews considering they ratted out a good amount
- The brittish dont comment on jews considering America wouldnt allow it, and cause of WWII
 

king Ale

Senior Member
Oct 28, 2004
21,689
It’s all Hamas’ fault, right Israel?

By Gideon Levy
Published 05:28 31.07.14
It’s so easy to be an Israeli; your tender conscience is pure as the driven snow: Everything is Hamas’ fault. The rockets are the fault of Hamas; that can be taken for granted. Hamas started the war, for no reason; that, too, “goes without saying.” Hamas is a vicious terrorist organization, beasts in human form, born to kill, fundamentalists – and apart from that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?

Some 400,000 Palestinians have been displaced. More than 1,200 have been killed, about 80 percent of them civilians, half of these women and children. Around 50 families have been obliterated, their homes bombed with them inside. It has reached the dimensions of a real massacre. But Israelis’ hands are clean and their consciences are quiet – so quiet you could cry. It’s Hamas’ fault.

We’ll leave the root causes of this cursed repression and denial to the psychologists. Since the days when Israel accused the Palestinians of killing their own children by means of the Israel Defense Forces, we haven’t seen such denial. After incubating for years, the disease is now a raging epidemic whose carriers are now symptomatic. The national conscience hasn’t moved a muscle in response to this atrocity, and there are forces working to keep it that way.

But even through the malignant cloud of denial, even understanding how easy it is to blame everything on Hamas — Israel has never had such a convenient enemy, which can be framed for all its sins – we must ask whether everything really is the fault of Hamas. Is Israel genuinely completely innocent? In the face of bleeding, ruined Gaza, the work of Israeli hands, such denial is incomprehensible.

Hamas is a vicious terror organization? How has it been more vicious than the IDF in this war? In that it doesn’t “knock on the roof” 80 seconds before bombing a home? That it aims its rockets at civilian populations, just as the IDF does, but less effectively? That it wants to destroy Israel? How many Israelis want to destroy Gaza? Meanwhile, everyone knows who is destroying whom.

Israel’s sanctimoniousness reaches a peak in its concern for Gaza’s residents: Look at how Hamas oppresses them, cry the Israeli democrats, so solicitous of Palestinian rights. Hamas is tyrannical, but its tyranny is nothing compared to that of Israel, which has subjected the Gaza Strip to a seven-year siege and a 47-year occupation.

What has destroyed Gaza’s society and economy is above all the siege, and thanks to those who seek its welfare, who imposed it. Thanks also to those who are worried about its lack of democracy, who are shocked by the corruption, who denounce its leaders for staying in luxury hotels or hiding in bunkers, who are troubled by the enormous sums used for tunnels and rockets instead of playgrounds and after-school activities. Truly, thanks.

What about Israel? Do its leaders live in tents? Aren’t enormous sums spent on superfluous submarines and secret explosives, instead of on health, education and welfare? Hamas is fundamentalist? Israel is on the way. Hamas oppresses women? That’s bad, but Israel has that too, at least in one large community.

Why did Gazans elect Hamas, instead of a moderate leadership? Because the moderates have been trying for years to achieve something, anything, and all they have received is humiliation and Israeli rejectionism. Has Israel given the Palestinians a reason to choose the Palestine Liberation Organization’s route of diplomacy over Hamas’ violent resistance? Has the PLO brought them an inch closer to statehood or freedom?

Hamas at least won the release of 1,000 prisoners and also preserved a measure of self-respect, even at the terrible price that the desperate Gazans are now willing to pay. What has Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas brought his people? Nothing. A photo op with Barack Obama.

I’m no fan of Hamas, quite the contrary. But Israel’s attempt to put all the blame on Hamas is outrageous. The international community will soon judge this war’s atrocities. Hamas may be reprimanded, deservedly, but Israel will be condemned and ostracized far more. And then Israelis will say, 'It’s Hamas’ fault. And the world will laugh.


http://www.haaretz.com/mobile/.premium-1.608118?v=8495F20A0303FE1EAA9456B57882ADDE
 

AFL_ITALIA

MAGISTERIAL
Jun 17, 2011
32,045
"If you have never been to #israel your argument is null and void. If you really feel bad about #gaza feel free to fly to Israel. After you pass through the worlds most secure airport, and wipe I
Your eyes and witness a sea
Of people of different nationality and religion. Stop by Jerusalem take a moment and take in the view.
Grab a falafel at any shop of your choosing Arab or Israeli. Then head down to gaza.
Don't hide where the media hides go to the people and not Hamas. Help them get to safety Israel has medical tents and plenty of food waiting. All you have to do is get past Hamas."

Meanwhile, his profile picture is this:



And he uploads shit like this:




Do they really believe this obvious bullshit? :sergio:
 

Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
116,999
I guess it's good news for Israel that they don't have to pull a Reichstag fire on their Knesset yet, but perhaps they are getting desperate. And yes, they believe it.
 

Zacheryah

Senior Member
Aug 29, 2010
42,251
There was a vid this week where israelian children were singing something about "there is no school for palestinian children cause they got bombed and died" or something.

So why wouldnt this be real ?

Can it be faked ? Yes. Are the zionists batshit insane enough to post that ? Also yes
 

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