Israeli-Palestinian conflict (45 Viewers)

Is Hamas a Terrorist Organization?

  • Yes

  • No

  • Should there be a Jewish nation SOMEWHERE in the world?

  • Yes

  • No

  • Should Israel be a country located in the region it is right now?

  • Yes

  • No


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Nzoric

Grazie Mirko
Jan 16, 2011
37,877
Really?!?! IDF gives a few minutes warning, the families have enough time to get out of the house. They choose to stay in and die, because of Hamas.
Are you fucking kidding me? As it has already been pointed out, Hamas is an Israeli brainchild. Furthermore, if the people of Gaza were not pushed to the brink of desparation from being occupied ruthlessly all these years, they wouldn't vote for Hamas and it wouldn't be a problem. Israel are very good at this. You are so superior when it comes to military and financial firepower that any worsening of the situation only benefits Israel. It's not in Israel's interest to find a peaceful solution to the problem, since they are winning handsomely as it stands right now, Palestine is being eaten by further settlements every day, Israel is growing and the US of A block any attempts to put pressure on Israel through the United Nations. One state, one people and then the Arabs can be a political minority within Israel if they want, if not they can leave.
 

BottomLine

Junior Member
Dec 23, 2012
318
Are you $#@!ing kidding me? As it has already been pointed out, Hamas is an Israeli brainchild. Furthermore, if the people of Gaza were not pushed to the brink of desparation from being occupied ruthlessly all these years, they wouldn't vote for Hamas and it wouldn't be a problem. Israel are very good at this. You are so superior when it comes to military and financial firepower that any worsening of the situation only benefits Israel. It's not in Israel's interest to find a peaceful solution to the problem, since they are winning handsomely as it stands right now, Palestine is being eaten by further settlements every day, Israel is growing and the US of A block any attempts to put pressure on Israel through the United Nations. One state, one people and then the Arabs can be a political minority within Israel if they want, if not they can leave.
Tell me, my friend. What would you do now if you were Netanyahu?
 

Nzoric

Grazie Mirko
Jan 16, 2011
37,877
Tell me, my friend. What would you do now if you were Netanyahu?
I would apologise sincerely, peel back to the 1967 borders, recognise Palestine as a sovereign country and present a plan of systematic investments in Palestine to restore the infratructure.

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Do that and just see how quickly the Gaza strip will puke Hamas into the ocean.
 

GordoDeCentral

Diez
Moderator
Apr 14, 2005
70,869
I would apologise sincerely, peel back to the 1967 borders, recognise Palestine as a sovereign country and present a plan of systematic investments in Palestine to restore the infratructure.

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Do that and just see how quickly the Gaza strip will puke Hamas into the ocean.
:tup: but that will never happen palestinian state solution is done
 

BottomLine

Junior Member
Dec 23, 2012
318
I would apologise sincerely, peel back to the 1967 borders, recognise Palestine as a sovereign country and present a plan of systematic investments in Palestine to restore the infratructure.

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Do that and just see how quickly the Gaza strip will puke Hamas into the ocean.
Sharon did an experiment in 05', disengaged from Gaza. Hamas was democratically chosen at 06'.
 

Nenz

Senior Member
Apr 17, 2008
10,472
Tell me, my friend. What would you do now if you were Netanyahu?
Simply though, how could any logical Isreali truly believe killing Palestinian women and children is going to contribute to peace and the safety of Isreali citizens? This methodology has been tried and tested time after time only to further exacerbate the crises. You only harden young Palestinians resolve against the Jewish state and create more hate by killing their mothers, fathers, brothers, sisters. Will this stop rockets being fired into Isreal?

Of course it won't. There's no way that Netanyahu is stupid enough to believe that. As Rab's friend said, they'll take any excuse to continue operations such as these. They would wipe out every Palastinian in Gaza if they had a big enough excuse because they are religious extremists with a sacred mandate to remove Palastinians from their homes by whatever means necessary.
 

BottomLine

Junior Member
Dec 23, 2012
318
Simply though, how could any logical Isreali truly believe killing Palestinian women and children is going to contribute to peace and the safety of Isreali citizens? This methodology has been tried and tested time after time only to further exacerbate the crises. You only harden young Palestinians resolve against the Jewish state and create more hate by killing their mothers, fathers, brothers, sisters. Will this stop rockets being fired into Isreal?

Of course it won't. There's no way that Netanyahu is stupid enough to believe that. As Rab's friend said, they'll take any excuse to continue operations such as these. They would wipe out every Palastinian in Gaza if they had a big enough excuse because they are religious extremists with a sacred mandate to remove Palastinians from their homes by whatever means necessary.
Of course, killing innocent Palestinian women and children will not contribute in any way to the safety of Israeli citizens, that is true. Therefor, the IDF is not trying to kill those women and children, but to destroy houses. Hamas is using these houses as rockets arsenals, and placing the rockets launchers inside those houses. And Destroying rockets and launchers does contribute to the safety of Israeli citizens.

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And yes, by only destroying Hamas' arsenals, infrastructure and killings few of it's important members, Israel will not get peace for the long run. It will get the Israeli citizans a few years of peace, but than it will all happen all over again. Therefor, I believe a more drastic action is needed, but that is for a completely other discussion.
 

GordoDeCentral

Diez
Moderator
Apr 14, 2005
70,869
Of course, killing innocent Palestinian women and children will not contribute in any way to the safety of Israeli citizens, that is true. Therefor, the IDF is not trying to kill those women and children, but to destroy houses. Hamas is using these houses as rockets arsenals, and placing the rockets launchers inside those houses. And Destroying rockets and launchers does contribute to the safety of Israeli citizens.

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And yes, by only destroying Hamas' arsenals, infrastructure and killings few of it's important members, Israel will not get peace for the long run. It will get the Israeli citizans a few years of peace, but than it will all happen all over again. Therefor, I believe a more drastic action is needed, but that is for a completely other discussion.
please be kind enough to share the details
 
Jul 1, 2010
26,352
I would apologise sincerely, peel back to the 1967 borders, recognise Palestine as a sovereign country and present a plan of systematic investments in Palestine to restore the infratructure.

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Do that and just see how quickly the Gaza strip will puke Hamas into the ocean.
That will never happen because the Talmudic/Zionist elites which control Israel (and the New World Order) want to have a non-Jewish underclass to do all the work for them and the Palestinians are the best candidates for that since they're already there.
 

BottomLine

Junior Member
Dec 23, 2012
318
please be kind enough to share the details
This is my humble opinion:
Israel conquers Gaza, controls it from inside for a few months. The IDF would destroy the Hamas as much as possible, and then will make an agreement with Abu Mazen, to regain control over Gaza. With military support that Israel would supply Abu Mazen would rehabilitate Gaza using the billions of dollars that are being donated to Gaza from all over the world. When possible Israel would disengage from Gaza again, leaving it for Abu Mazen to control and would supply military support if a new Hamas tries again to take control over Gaza.
 

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