Israeli-Palestinian conflict (13 Viewers)

[Cheesio]

Sums the whole situation.

 

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[Klovn]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Palestinian_terrorism

Allah Akbar!#@$#@%$#~~!!

btw: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_suicide_bombers_in_the_Israeli–Palestinian_conflict

and eventually the IDF are terrorists....

Do you have a problem with what people believe in?

 

[Martin]

Do you have a problem with what people believe in?

I do. I think the Jews believe in a fantasy. Don't you?

 

[Klovn]

Indeed.

 

[Martin]

Indeed.

That whole thing about god promising them Israel as the promised land etc etc. It's pure nonsense. If they didn't believe that then they would just eff off and go live somewhere else, problem solved. Right?

 

[Raz]

That whole thing about god promising them Israel as the promised land etc etc. It's pure nonsense. If they didn't believe that then they would just eff off and go live somewhere else, problem solved. Right?

Don't think so.

 

[Turk_Bianconero]

They would find another excuse. They need a 'base of operations' to run things.

 

[abstract]

israel THE FAKE COUNTRY is just an american colony in the middle east
the main function of this colony is to serve as a military base to invade neighbor countries

 

[Bjerknes]

He works for a swedish company? Figures, they like to hire fgts.

Don't say these things.

israel THE FAKE COUNTRY is just an american colony in the middle east
the main function of this colony is to serve as a military base to invade neighbor countries

That's not my American colony. Americans I know fuucking hate Israel.

 

[Nzoric]

How the Israeli's can continue to do this with no repercussions at all is mind boggling. The UN should be disbanded.

 

[Martin]

How the Israeli's can continue to do this with no repercussions at all is mind boggling. The UN should be disbanded.

Why? All the UN is capable of is reaching agreements with the good will of its participants. The fact that every single resolution that opposes Israel's colonialism is consistently voted down by two members: Israel and the US tells the whole story. Take those two countries out and you could actually get the UN to condemn these atrocities.

 

[Goodfella]

How can you take those two parties out, when the UN is in their pockets?

It was established for their interests to begin with.

 

[Nzoric]

Why? All the UN is capable of is reaching agreements with the good will of its participants. The fact that every single resolution that opposes Israel's colonialism is consistently voted down by two members: Israel and the US tells the whole story. Take those two countries out and you could actually get the UN to condemn these atrocities.

You said it yourself. The UN is designed in such a way that the strongest can harbor their interests without even being condemned for them. USA will always veto anything that's anti-Israel, so the institution becomes super irrelevant. This means that the effectiveness is constrained to weak countries with no real allies, and even the resolutions passed in the UN can be blatantly disregarded by the very countries who signed it.

 

[Luca Marrone]

 

[Nzoric]

yeah, now the BBC are pro-Palestine. I hope you get pushed into the ocean.

 

[Martin]

You said it yourself. The UN is designed in such a way that the strongest can harbor their interests without even being condemned for them. USA will always veto anything that's anti-Israel, so the institution becomes super irrelevant. This means that the effectiveness is constrained to weak countries with no real allies, and even the resolutions passed in the UN can be blatantly disregarded by the very countries who signed it.

True. So are we better served by removing it? The UN is a peace initiative, however corrupted and powerless. At least in its founding idea.

 

[Nzoric]

True. So are we better served by removing it? The UN is a peace initiative, however corrupted and powerless. At least in its founding idea.

When a peace initiative is taken and turned into a tool for excercising power over the small and covering your own back, then yes, we're better off removing it and starting another initiative.

 

[Martin]

Okay, so how are we going to replace it with something that's not dominated by the major economic powers?

 

[Trequartista]

If the Israeli government had any sense, they would not retaliate furthermore, stop building settlements and allow Palestine to become a state.

Unfortunately, that's not the case. Hopefully Netanyahu will lose the elections in January and a sensible government will be elected.

 

[Raz]

Sensible goverment... I would like to see one of those.