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    From Associated Press:

    Thai-Muslim women walk past a board during a gathering of Thai-Muslim activists at a mosque in Bangkok, Thailand Monday, Oct. 25, 2010. About 500 Thai-Muslim activists gathered to raise fund and protest against the Israel blockade of Gaza.







     

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    1500 extremist Jews entered one of the Arab cities inside Israel (Umm al-Fahm city) and provoked people there shouting for throwing them out of their city.

    Violent clashes are taking place now there.

    Some news say that Knesset Palestinian member, Haneen Zuúbi was shot by the Israeli army during the clashes.

    This lady deserves respect

     
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    ReBeL

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    To have an idea what happened in Umm Al-Fahm city yesterday here are the photos...Note: This city did not see violent clashes like this one since 1948 except once in 2000.

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    From Associated Press

    Jewish extremists hoisting Israeli flags defiantly marched through this Arab Israeli town Wednesday, chanting "death to terrorists" and touching off clashes between rock-hurling residents and police who quelled them with tear gas. The scenes of Israeli Arabs, their faces covered with checkered headscarves, setting tires ablaze, heaving rocks at heavily armed riot police and scrambling to dodge tear gas and police fire recalled images of violence between Israeli forces and the Arabs' Palestinian brethren.

















































































































































































     
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    ReBeL

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    Yes, we love life...

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    From Associated Press:

    Palestinian grooms are accompanied by their sisters waving to their relatives during a mass wedding ceremony in Gaza City, Saturday, Oct. 30, 2010. 70 couples who had wounded during Israel's 2008 Gaza offensive, took part in the event which was organized by the Islamic Association.



























     
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    A new way to steal Palestinian land:

    From Associated Press:

    Map of the West Bank locates the proposed route of the Tel Aviv-Jerusalem railway which passes through the West Bank.

     
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    ReBeL

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    From three different villages in the West Bank (Nilin, Bilin and Nabi Saleh) yesterday against the separation barrier and the settlements:





























     
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    Today from Getty Images:

    Israeli soldiers stand in front of a banner with a copy of a letter from the British Foreign Secretary Arthur James Balfour to Baron Rothschild (a leader of the British Jewish community) known as the Balfour Declaration of 1917, as Palestinians, Israeli and foreign protesters demonstrate near the Karmi Tsor Jewish settlement not far from the Palestinian village of Beit Omar in the Israeli-occupied West Bank on November 06, 2010. The Balfour Declaration of 1917 is a formal statement of policy by the British government regarding the establishment of a Jewish homeland in Palestine.

     
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    The Palestinians of Israel are poised to take centre stage

    In a quiet street in the Sheikh Jarrah district of occupied East Jerusalem 88-year-old Rifka al-Kurd is explaining how she came to live in the house she and her husband built as Palestinian refugees in the 1950s. As she speaks, three young ultra-orthodox Jewish settlers swagger in to stake their claim to the front part of the building, shouting abuse in Hebrew and broken Arabic: "Arab animals", "shut up, whore".

    There is a brief physical confrontation with Rifka's daughter as the settlers barricade themselves in to the rooms they have occupied since last winter. That was when they finally won a court order to take over the Kurd family's extension on the grounds that it was built without permission – which Palestinians in Jerusalem are almost never granted. It is an ugly scene, the settlers' chilling arrogance underpinned by the certain knowledge that they can call in the police and army at will.

    But such takeovers of Palestinian homes in Sheikh Jarrah have become commonplace, and the focus of continual protest. The same is true in nearby Silwan, home to upwards of 30,000 Palestinians next to the Old City, where 88 homes to 1,500 Palestinians have been lined up for demolition to make way for a King David theme park and hundreds of settlers are protected round the clock by trigger-happy security guards.

    Throughout the Arab areas of Jerusalem, as in the West Bank, the government is pressing ahead with land expropriations, demolitions and settlement building, making the prospects of a Palestinian state ever more improbable. More than a third of the land in East Jerusalem has been expropriated since it was occupied in 1967 to make way for Israeli colonists, in flagrant violation of international law.

    Israel's latest settlement plans were not "helpful", Barack Obama ventured on Tuesday. But while US-sponsored Israeli-Palestinian negotiations go nowhere and attention has been focused on the brutal siege of Gaza, the colonisation goes on. It is also proceeding apace in Israel proper, where the demolition of Palestinian Bedouin villages around the Negev desert has accelerated under Binyamin Netanyahu.

    About 87,000 Bedouin live in 45 "unrecognised" villages, without rights or basic public services, because the Israeli authorities refuse to recognise their claim to the land. All have demolition orders hanging over them, while hundreds of Jewish settlements have been established throughout the area.

    The Israeli writer Amos Oz calls the Negev a "ticking time bomb". The village of Araqeeb has been destroyed six times in recent months and each time it has been reconstructed by its inhabitants. The government wants to clear the land and move the Bedouin into designated townships. But even there, demolitions are carried out on a routine basis.

    At the weekend, a mosque in the Bedouin town of Rahat was torn down by the army in the night. By Sunday afternoon, local people were already at work on rebuilding it, as patriotic songs blared out from the PA system and activists addressed an angry crowd.

    The awakening of the Negev Bedouin, many of whom used to send their sons to fight in the Israeli army, reflects a wider politicisation of the Arab citizens of Israel. Cut off from the majority of Palestinians after 1948, they tried to find an accommodation with the state whose discrimination against them was, in the words of former prime minister Ehud Olmert, "deep-seated and intolerable" from the first.

    That effort has as good as been abandoned. The Arab parties in the Israeli Knesset now reject any idea of Israel as an ethnically defined state, demanding instead a "state of all its people". The influential Islamic Movement refuses to take part in the Israeli political system at all. The Palestinians of '48, who now make up getting on for 20% of the population, are increasingly organising themselves on an independent basis – and in common cause with their fellow Palestinians across the Green Line.

    Palestinian experience inside Israel, from land confiscations to settlement building and privileged ethnic segregation, is not after all so different from what has taken place in East Jerusalem and the West Bank. After 1948, the Palestinians of Jaffa who survived ethnic cleansing were forced to share their houses with Jewish settlers – just as Rifka al-Kurd is in Jerusalem today. The sense of being one people is deepening.

    That has been intensified by ever more aggressive attempts under the Netanyahu government to bring Israel's Arab citizens to heel, along with growing demands to transfer hundreds of thousands of them to a future West Bank administration. A string of new laws targeting the Palestinian minority are in the pipeline, including the bill agreed by the Israeli cabinet last month requiring all new non-Jewish citizens to swear an oath of allegiance to Israel as a Jewish state.

    Pressure on Palestinian leaders and communities is becoming harsher. A fortnight ago more than a thousand soldiers and police were on hand to protect a violent march by a far-right racist Israeli group through the Palestinian town of Umm al-Fahm. The leader of the Islamic Movement, Ra'ed Salah, is in prison for spitting at a policeman; the Palestinian MP Haneen Zoabi has been stripped of her parliamentary privileges for joining the Gaza flotilla; and leading civil rights campaigner Ameer Makhoul faces up to 10 years in jail after being convicted of the improbable charge of spying for Hezbollah.

    Meanwhile Israel is also demanding that the Palestinian leadership in Ramallah recognise Israel as a Jewish state as part of any agreement. Few outside the Palestinian Authority – or even inside it – seem to believe that the "peace process" will lead to any kind of settlement. Even Fatah leaders such as Nabil Sha'ath now argue that the Palestinians need to consider a return to armed resistance, or a shift to the South African model of mass popular resistance, also favoured by prominent Palestinians in Israel.

    As for the people who actually won the last elections, Mahmoud Ramahi, the Hamas secretary general of the Palestinian parliament, reminded me on Monday that the US continues to veto any reconciliation with Fatah. He was arrested by the Israelis barely 24 hours later, just as talks between the two parties were getting going in Damascus.

    The focus of the Palestinian-Israeli struggle has shifted over the last 40 years from Jordan to Lebanon to the occupied territories. With the two-state solution close to collapse, it may be that the Palestinians of Israel are at last about to move centre stage. If so, the conflict that more than any other has taken on a global dimension will have finally come full circle.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2010/nov/10/palestinians-poised-to-take-centre-stage
     

    JBF

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    Israel's cabinet has approved a scheme to allow into the country nearly 8,000 Ethiopians of Jewish descent.

    Many members of the Falash Mura community are living in poor conditions in transit camps in northern Ethiopia.

    Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said Israelis had a moral duty to resolve the "complex humanitarian crisis".
    :lol: :lol:

    The Falash Mura's ancestors converted to Christianity under pressure in the 19th Century and so are not eligible to emigrate under Israel's Law of Return.

    Thousands who were deemed eligible by Israel have arrived in smaller groups in recent years, but the flow was largely halted in 2008.


    'Worst living conditions'

    At the weekly cabinet meeting, Mr Netanyahu said the remaining Falash Mura would be brought to Israel over the next three years.

    Six hundred would arrive as soon as next year, and in the three years that follow 200 would make the move each month, he added.

    "The government of Israel wants to solve this problem, because there is a difficult humanitarian crisis there," the prime minister told ministers.

    "These are the seeds of Israel - men, women and children - that currently find themselves in the worst living conditions," he added.

    Ethiopia's last remaining Jewish community, the Falash Mura trace their roots to the biblical King Solomon.

    But they are not eligible to enter Israel under the Law of Return, which guarantees a place in the country for every Jew, because they have largely been unable to prove they are Jewish.

    Ethiopian Jews who kept their faith throughout centuries of adversity were flown to Israel by the thousands in the 1980s and early 1990s.

    The last mass immigration was in 1991, when Israel organised an airlift of 15,000 people who had fled fighting at the end of Ethiopia's civil war.

    More than 100,000 Jews from Ethiopia are believed to live in the country. They make up one of the poorest sections of Israeli society.


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    They'll do anything to count on a demographic level on a land that ain't theirs. And everyone shuts their eyes when they do so.
     

    JBF

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    By Lillian Rosengarten

    Dedicated to the memory of Paul Celan.



    Dare we whisper of racial hate, cruelty that feeds voraciously
    Righteous moral certainty ready to taint the earth with blood
    Yours and mine in the name of nationalism.
    Ugly word reminds me of “uber mensch.”
    Do you remember once our well made clothes were warm and stylish,
    party dresses decked with bows, ribbons in the hair,
    families who loved, houses filled with flowers and the stuff of life.
    Things everybody knows, or wants to know .
    Before the yellow star took it all away, shopkeepers and bakers,
    professors. poets, doctors and artists, students and teachers,
    homosexuals, gypsies, lovers
    Dare we whisper how hate tainted the earth with their blood
    As the world looked on.

    Racist oppression, cruelty, righteous moral certainty ready to strike.
    In the name of nationalism, in the name of Jews.
    But I am not this Jew and cannot be a Jew
    who looks on in silence and indifference, who legitimizes collective
    cruelty, no power
    no land, no thing, the blood of war carelessly justified.
    It’s all too familiar and I am tired.
    Remember the hunted generations before and only yesterday.
    A great burden has wrapped itself around me .
    I scream collective pain heavy with sadness.
    You! For the sake of humanity stand with me.
    Hold me in your arms for I burn with a fever of grief
    I eat my power to give me courage

    Grotesque amoral army, dare we whisper or shout
    Victimizers! What cruel twist of fate has blinded you?
    A haunted people now fiercely perverse. Once you too were brutalized.
    Moral army, have you forgotten?
    Has the past inferno faded to fiction
    or lost in your unconscious as you dream of nirvana in the Jewish
    state?
    I feel the presence of an enemy, the boat can sail no more.
    Ghouls in military attire walk across a vast terrain scorched and
    silent.
    New killing fields leave not a trace, not one skull for memory’s sake
    only tears of glass. I beg the demons of the night.
    Lift the darkness one more time.
    Hold me in your arms before I die.


    - Lillian Rosengarten was the only American on board the Irene (Jewish boat) to Gaza. She contributed this poem to the PalestineChronicle.com.
     

    JBF

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    Russia has released Israeli mercenary Yair Klein, who was sought by Colombia for his involvement in the training of paramilitary squads, reports say.

    Klein, a former Israeli army soldier, is on his way to Israel, Interfax news agency reports.

    In 2001, a Colombian court convicted him in absentia of training right-wing guerrilla groups.

    Russia arrested him in 2007 under an Interpol warrant and later agreed to extradite him to Colombia.

    But the European Court of Human Rights (ECHR) forbid the extradition, on grounds that he might face mistreatment in Colombia.

    'Drug lords'

    Israel's Channel 10 television showed Klein on Friday leaving a Moscow jail where he was being held.

    "Klein has been freed and he is currently en route to Israel," Interfax news agency quoted an unnamed security source as saying.

    Klein was sentenced in absentia in 2001 to 10 years and eight months in prison in Colombia for assisting and training drug lords and guerrilla groups in the 1980s and 1990s.

    He was found guilty of training a cadre of killers for the infamous Medellin drug cartel, a charge which he denies.

    They later became the nucleus of the brutal paramilitary army known as the United Self Defence Forces of Colombia (AUC), which prosecutors said carried out some of the country's most notorious political assassinations.

    He has also served prison time in Sierra Leone in 1999, on charges of smuggling arms to the rebel group Revolutionary United Front.

    He has been detained in Russia since 2007. Klein's family has fought extradition, alleging that it would mean certain death.

    After several court cases, Russia's Supreme Court rejected his final appeal in 2008, and ordered Klein to be extradited to Colombia.

    The ECHR ruled against it, saying Klein could face serous mistreatment.

    Although Russia appealed the ECHR decision, the court upheld the decision.

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    Hell even when a zionist is guilty for crimes against other countries and people than Palestinians he's freed :lol:

    Fucking disgrace.
     
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    Russia has released Israeli mercenary Yair Klein, who was sought by Colombia for his involvement in the training of paramilitary squads, reports say.

    Klein, a former Israeli army soldier, is on his way to Israel, Interfax news agency reports.

    In 2001, a Colombian court convicted him in absentia of training right-wing guerrilla groups.

    Russia arrested him in 2007 under an Interpol warrant and later agreed to extradite him to Colombia.

    But the European Court of Human Rights (ECHR) forbid the extradition, on grounds that he might face mistreatment in Colombia.

    'Drug lords'

    Israel's Channel 10 television showed Klein on Friday leaving a Moscow jail where he was being held.

    "Klein has been freed and he is currently en route to Israel," Interfax news agency quoted an unnamed security source as saying.

    Klein was sentenced in absentia in 2001 to 10 years and eight months in prison in Colombia for assisting and training drug lords and guerrilla groups in the 1980s and 1990s.

    He was found guilty of training a cadre of killers for the infamous Medellin drug cartel, a charge which he denies.

    They later became the nucleus of the brutal paramilitary army known as the United Self Defence Forces of Colombia (AUC), which prosecutors said carried out some of the country's most notorious political assassinations.

    He has also served prison time in Sierra Leone in 1999, on charges of smuggling arms to the rebel group Revolutionary United Front.

    He has been detained in Russia since 2007. Klein's family has fought extradition, alleging that it would mean certain death.

    After several court cases, Russia's Supreme Court rejected his final appeal in 2008, and ordered Klein to be extradited to Colombia.

    The ECHR ruled against it, saying Klein could face serous mistreatment.

    Although Russia appealed the ECHR decision, the court upheld the decision.

    BBC

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    Hell even when a zionist is guilty for crimes against other countries and people than Palestinians he's freed :lol:

    Fucking disgrace.
    Don't forget that Russia is Israel's bitch since its establishment.
     
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    Harsh words, Reb :D
    That is the truth, Martin. People in the Arab world always have weird passion to Russia because they always think that Russia is closer to us than USA.

    We should not forget that USSR admitted the establishment of Israel before USA, and we should not forget that Jewish businessmen have a great control of the decision making in Russia.
     

    Martin

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    That is the truth, Martin. People in the Arab world always have weird passion to Russia because they always think that Russia is closer to us than USA.

    We should not forget that USSR admitted the establishment of Israel before USA, and we should not forget that Jewish businessmen have a great control of the decision making in Russia.
    I think it's all wishful thinking anyway. Small nations like to believe they are on good terms with the big ones, it makes them feel good.
     

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