I am a little superstitious, but I don't go as a far as believing in curses.. thats BS.. IMO Thuram is pretty much finished and Ibra is way overated, he'll end up like Recoba did at Inter... but as for the rest u have to give em more time.. Zambro will find his spark in the next few months.. And i think people are underating the security and consistancy canna and emerson have brought to madrid this season. As for Vieira.. besides the fact he's been suspended, he's playing just as well as he did in the black and white...