Iraq. Is it better now?? (AKA ISIS/ISIL/IS/name-of-the-week-here) (22 Viewers)

[ALC]

That still doesn't excuse what ISIS is doing.

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After hearing ISIS was chopping off the heads of babies, I can understand where ISIS comes from too. They were all locked in Jerry Sandusky's basement, but the stupid government let them out. Now Allah has turned their pedophilia into nonsensical rage. What a shame, Sandusky should have just killed them.

It's all Sandusky's fault!

 

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[king Ale]

Well, I can tell you that a very big gap is expanding between Arab people and Irani community in general because of the atrocities committed against civilians in Syria and Iraq. All the people I know think that all what Iran is doing against Israel is just talking without any useful work on ground. On the contrary, they are seeing continuously what Irani soldiers are doing in Syria, and what the Irani government is doing in Iraq...

Iran is never just talking when it comes to Israel. Iran is literally and willingly paying the price for their Palestinian cause.

What happened/is happening in Syria is still the biggest mystery for me but unfortunately and ironically I see it all going in favor of Israel. By no means am I defending the Iranian government's policies regarding Syria and what Bahsar's doing is never justifiable (you can see my past year's posts in Syria's thread) but (and this is a personal opinion) I really believe Syria was better off with Bashar.

 

[ReBeL]

After hearing ISIS was chopping off the heads of babies, I can understand where ISIS comes from too. They were all locked in Jerry Sandusky's basement, but the stupid government let them out. Now Allah has turned their pedophilia into nonsensical rage. What a shame, Sandusky should have just killed them.

I'm not justifying their acts. I just tell you somebody has to do something because frustration won't produce better than them

 

[Bjerknes]

Nah, it's Allah's fault. Sandusky was just giving them what they wanted.

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I'm not justifying their acts. I just tell you somebody has to do something because frustration won't produce better than them

What should people do?

 

[ReBeL]

Iran is never just talking when it comes to Israel. Iran is literally and willingly paying the price for their Palestinian cause.

What happened/is happening in Syria is still the biggest mystery for me but unfortunately and ironically I see it all going in favor of Israel. By no means am I defending the Iranian government's policies regarding Syria and what Bahsar's doing is never justifiable (you can see my past year's posts in Syria's thread) but (and this is a personal opinion) I really believe Syria was better off with Bashar.

That is the problem. Irani government thinks that they know better than Syrians themselves. They did not go to Syria to help civilians. No, they went there to kill anybody that dreams of freedom. They want their puppet on the top...

 

[ALC]

Nah, it's Allah's fault. Sandusky was just giving them what they wanted.

The way they were licking their lollipops was just too seductive.

 

[Zacheryah]

wat

 

[ReBeL]

What should people do?

Somebody has to stop the daily massacre in Syria. A whole city was wiped out of the map because it dared to say NO to a dictator. I mean Homs of course. Now, they are doing the same to Aleppo. People there are so frustrated. When you see your dears and relatives being killed in tens on a daily basis, you become another creature

 

[king Ale]

I'm not justifying their acts. I just tell you somebody has to do something because frustration won't produce better than them

I hope, for your sake, you will stop elaborating on what you said. Has it ever occurred to you that ISIS may well be (knowingly) working in favor of Israel?

And don't talk about frustration please for those who have been targeted by Daesh so far have already had enough.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...ildren-in-attack-that-killed-500-9659695.html

That is the problem. Irani government thinks that they know better than Syrians themselves. They did not go to Syria to help civilians. No, they went there to kill anybody that dreams of freedom. They want their puppet on the top...

Sigh.

 

[ReBeL]

Again, I'm not justifying what they are doing, but to solve a problem you have to find its reasons. Killing tens or hundreds by American planes won't stop them. On the contrary, their followers now are increasing because they now are sure that Americans did not care about Sunnis in Syria. They only cared when the Pope cried and when yezidis were hurt. So, what is the conclusion that can come to the mind of any Sunni? Well, most of them are thinking that nobody care about our lives, so we should try to do something before we get killed, because simply we are getting killed whether we do something or keep silent...

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I hope, for your sake, you will stop elaborating on what you said. Has it ever occurred to you that ISIS may well be (knowingly) working in favor of Israel?

And don't talk about frustration please for those who have been targeted by Daesh so far have already had enough.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...ildren-in-attack-that-killed-500-9659695.html



Sigh.

Should I put links for 200000 Syrians that were and still are killed in Syria?
Why did the world care about 500 people and did not care about 200000? Try to forget that you are not Sunni and answer this question please...

 

[Zé Tahir]

You are crazy Abed. People like you and Turk... I can never understand. You guys scare me so much I cannot even imagine a peaceful future with guys like you and those who you support.

This sums up my thoughts

 

[ReBeL]

This sums up my thoughts

It is easy to say that, but you have to give answers for all the questions I raised above. Why is the life of a Sunni is nothing compared to the life of a Yezidi for example? Why did not anybody interfere when Homs was being shelled for more than 2 years?

 

[GordoDeCentral]

It is easy to say that, but you have to give answers for all the questions I raised above. Why is the life of a Sunni is nothing compared to the life of a Yezidi for example? Why did not anybody interfere when Homs was being shelled for more than 2 years?

thats actually a good question, yezidis i.e kurds are an integral part of the balkanization of iraq, they will create kurdistan in northern iraq and ISIS cant interfere with that.

 

[ReBeL]

Within such an environment, you can expect that when a crazy man comes to those frustrated people to tell them that he will try to make revenge from all those who were not fair with them, hundreds will run behind him. That is sad, but it is so unfair to claim that ISIS was the one who started all those crimes.

 

[king Ale]

Should I put links for 200000 Syrians that were and still are killed in Syria?
Why did the world care about 500 people and did not care about 200000? Try to forget that you are not Sunni and answer this question please...

Try to forget that they are Sunnis? This Sunni-Shia bullshit line is what I hate the most when it comes to Muslims. This is as stupid as "why forgetting the Kurds and crying for Gazans", "why forgetting Syrians and crying for Gazans" (Islamic republic syndrome you remember? The government supports Bashar's bloodshed while criticizing Israelis even though the casualties are not even comparable. Your argument is exactly what many Iranians also use, just as naive), "why forgetting hungry kids of Somalia and crying for Gazans". FFS. I'm not a politician, nor a religious extremist. I'm not looking for what's beneficial for my political party or religious dream. I exactly know who I am and who I am not. That's why I don't understand such absurd arguments as you make. Iranian government is, for whatever reason, probably thinking that it's in their best interest to support Bashar. I'm not a politician so I'm against such savagery against civilians. Iranian government is also thinking that they should fight against Israel. I'm still not a politician and I find what Israel is doing atrocious so why should I try to find the hypocrisy in what my government is doing right when I'm thinking in line with them? Who cares if it's Sunnis/Shias/Yezidis/Arabs/etc as long as they are defenseless civilians who are brutalized? Raise your voice when you should and be consistent in that if you are not a politician. If you are, well, try to understand your fellow politicians. They are working for their interests, they have double standards (so do you hence stop moaning about it), deal with it.

 

[ReBeL]

Try to forget that they are Sunnis? This Sunni-Shia bull$#@! line is what I hate the most when it comes to Muslims. This is as stupid as "why forgetting the Kurds and crying for Gazans", "why forgetting Syrians and crying for Gazans" (Islamic republic syndrome you remember? The government supports Bashar's bloodshed while criticizing Israelis even though the casualties are not even comparable. Your argument is exactly what many Iranians also use, just as naive), "why forgetting hungry kids of Somalia and crying for Gazans". FFS. I'm not a politician, nor a religious extremist. I'm not looking for what's beneficial for my political party or religious dream. I exactly know who I am and who I am not. That's why I don't understand such absurd arguments as you make. Iranian government is, for whatever reason, probably thinking that it's in their best interest to support Bashar. I'm not a politician so I'm against such savagery against civilians. Iranian government is also thinking that they should fight against Israel. I'm still not a politician and I find what Israel is doing atrocious so why should I try to find the hypocrisy in what my government is doing right when I'm thinking in line with them? Who cares if it's Sunnis/Shias/Yezidis/Arabs/etc as long as they are defenseless civilians who are brutalized? Raise your voice when you should and be consistent in that if you are not a politician. If you are, well, try to understand your fellow politicians. They are working for their interests, they have double standards (so do you hence stop moaning about it), deal with it.

I'm not moaning. I'm trying to explain why ISIS has appeared initially. Anyway, I still think Irani government is all about words and nothing but words regarding Gaza. They do not do anything on ground. On the contrary, everybody see their horrible acts in Syria. And the people of Gaza do not need tears. because they won't make use of them ever. If there is no physical help, it is not so different from getting no help at all.

 

[GordoDeCentral]

Within such an environment, you can expect that when a crazy man comes to those frustrated people to tell them that he will try to make revenge from all those who were not fair with them, hundreds will run behind him. That is sad, but it is so unfair to claim that ISIS was the one who started all those crimes.

most people making up ISIS are not iraqis, the iraqi sunni tribal leaders are just using ISIS to get rid of the govt forces. None of the past crimes excuse any of the acts the abomination ISIS is committing.

 

[ReBeL]

most people making up ISIS are not iraqis, the iraqi sunni tribal leaders are just using ISIS to get rid of the govt forces. None of the past crimes excuse any of the acts the abomination ISIS is committing.

The leader is an Iraq. His assistants are a Syrian and a Chechen. You can find out how they united for one goal.

 

[Lion]

most people making up ISIS are not iraqis, the iraqi sunni tribal leaders are just using ISIS to get rid of the govt forces. None of the past crimes excuse any of the acts the abomination ISIS is committing.

ywonder wha actual numbers are? but i agree. most are not Iraqis, but most are arabs, therefore same problem yet again.

arabs gonna arab

 

[Eddy]

I hate how everything is tied to fucking religion in this piece of shit region. Everyone wants to be a victim, and then you have extremist clowns like ISIS who look like they time travelled from the 11th century to get here to make things the worst it's ever been.