Iraq. Is it better now?? (AKA ISIS/ISIL/IS/name-of-the-week-here) (10 Viewers)

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ReBeL

The Jackal
Jan 14, 2005
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    Iran is sadly the only hope you have for your radical dreams to come true ;)
    Never. They never did a good thing for Muslims. They still live in the memory of their empire when they were doing nothing but jumping around the fire. That is why they never liked Arabs who got rid of their empire and they are since then working on destroying Islam from inside.

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    Pretty much every single arab friend i got, and pretty much all their friends on facebook, are all against ISIS and beeing very clear about that. :agree:
    Well, to be honest, I'm not with them, nor against them. I can understand where they come from. The frustration that is being made for decades in the region can't produce better than this, really. I'm against some of their acts for sure though...
     

    king Ale

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    Oct 28, 2004
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    Never. They never did a good thing for Muslims. They still live in the memory of their empire when they were doing nothing but jumping around the fire. That is why they never liked Arabs who got rid of their empire and they are since then working on destroying Islam from inside.
    This is absolutely right about a large number of people but I was talking the government who is basically the sole threat to Israel, one of the few non-Arab governments that doesn't recognize Israel, been funding (radical) groups fighting against Israel, is never in favor of the idea of a two-state solution thus never supported Abu Mazen and has had its fair share of harming the peace talks in the region with rash and radical statements, been consistently fighting for its cause and is the only serious government doing so.; all facts. My opinion? Iranian government does have good intentions in standing up to Israel and almost all the world (as much as I do not agree with many of their foreign policies regarding the Palestinian-Israeli conflict).

    Our people are unfortunately suffering from what I'd call Islamic Republic syndrome though in that they tend to oppose ANY decision the government makes. Iranians have been probably the only indifferent nation (in the region) to the pain of Palestinians only because the government was supporting, verbally and financially, Hamas and as a result has had the whole west lined up against the country, blacklisted, gone through paralyzing sanctions and heavy economic pressure. People never liked to sacrifice this much for what they never deemed to be their government's business. Crazy thing about how far Israel have taken their insanity is that during this latest conflict, even Iranians are outraged. Even they cannot stand this atrocity and as much as it's hard for you to believe, it really IS huge considering how different things were in the past years.
     

    king Ale

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    Oct 28, 2004
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    Well, to be honest, I'm not with them, nor against them. I can understand where they come from. The frustration that is being made for decades in the region can't produce better than this, really. I'm against some of their acts for sure though...
    You are crazy Abed. People like you and Turk... I can never understand. You guys scare me so much I cannot even imagine a peaceful future with guys like you and those who you support.
     
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    ReBeL

    The Jackal
    Jan 14, 2005
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    This is absolutely right about a large number of people but I was talking the government who is basically the sole threat to Israel, one of the few non-Arab governments that doesn't recognize Israel, been funding (radical) groups fighting against Israel, is never in favor of the idea of a two-state solution thus never supported Abu Mazen and has had its fair share of harming the peace talks in the region with rash and radical statements, been consistently fighting for its cause and is the only serious government doing so.; all facts. My opinion? Iranian government does have good intentions in standing up to Israel and almost all the world (as much as I do not agree with many of their foreign policies regarding the Palestinian-Israeli conflict).

    Our people are unfortunately suffering from what I'd call Islamic Republic syndrome though in that they tend to oppose ANY decision the government makes. Iranians have been probably the only indifferent nation (in the region) to the pain of Palestinians only because the government was supporting, verbally and financially, Hamas and as a result has had the whole west lined up against the country, blacklisted, gone through paralyzing sanctions and heavy economic pressure. People never liked to sacrifice this much for what they never deemed to be their government's business. Crazy thing about how far Israel have taken their insanity is that during this latest conflict, even Iranians are outraged. Even they cannot stand this atrocity and as much as it's hard for you to believe, it really IS huge considering how different things were in the past years.
    Well, I can tell you that a very big gap is expanding between Arab people and Irani community in general because of the atrocities committed against civilians in Syria and Iraq. All the people I know think that all what Iran is doing against Israel is just talking without any useful work on ground. On the contrary, they are seeing continuously what Irani soldiers are doing in Syria, and what the Irani government is doing in Iraq...

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    You are crazy Abed. People like you and Turk... I can never understand. You guys scare me so much I cannot even imagine a peaceful future with guys like you and those who you support.
    How can anybody expect a peaceful future after seeing tens of thousands of Syrians being killed horribly JUST because they call for freedom. Who killed them? Alawites and Shiites leading the mercenary Sunnis who stayed in the Syrian army...

    Did you hear about what Iraqi army did to people in the Western Iraq? Killing people just because of their sect. Raping a woman just because of her sect. Do you think this will produce a prosperous future?

    For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction.

    You may hear only about the crimes of ISIS, but you have to know that thousands are joining ISIS because of what they are seeing everyday in their lives...
     

    Bjerknes

    "Top Economist"
    Mar 16, 2004
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    After hearing ISIS was chopping off the heads of babies, I can understand where ISIS comes from too. They were all locked in Jerry Sandusky's basement, but the stupid government let them out. Now Allah has turned their pedophilia into nonsensical rage. What a shame, Sandusky should have just killed them.
     

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