Iraq. Is it better now?? (AKA ISIS/ISIL/IS/name-of-the-week-here) (9 Viewers)

[Maresca]

Thanks, but I am sorry to hear about your homeland...

WRONG!


...and if you'd have ever lived there, that would matter.

would do you mean burke?

 

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[Zé Tahir]

He only gassed the Kurds and they don't really count as people.

Funny how no one in this country knew what a 'Kurd' was before the invasion. These 'little' details are fed to people to excuse campaigns like this.

 

[ßöмßäяðîëя]

would do you mean burke?

I'm American, so I was saying thanks for agreeing with me, but I am sorry about Iraq, how war-torn it is...

 

[ßöмßäяðîëя]

Funny how no one in this country knew what a 'Kurd' was before the invasion. These 'little' details are fed to people to excuse campaigns like this.

I knew what a kurd was, Miss Muffitt ate them.

 

[Martin]

Funny how no one in this country knew what a 'Kurd' was before the invasion. These 'little' details are fed to people to excuse campaigns like this.

You're right, the Kurd massacre was just a phony argument

 

[Zé Tahir]

No muslim would be a fan of the French Revolution TBH.

You're right, the Kurd massacre was just a phony argument

What?

 

[king Ale]

Agreed..the situation currently is a temporary. In order to get Irak to complete freedom it will still take some years. may be 5, 10, but still better than being under Saddams regime, where even more people were killed but no information were provided in the media. I can telly o that after Saddam, his son was going to take the lead and so on.. what happend to Irak will be helpful for the courtry in the long term. I am very optimistic that it will turn to better.

I really hope so. We used to have Iraqi neighbors a couple of years ago and they believed there was no other way to get rid of Saddam in Iraq. They have been receiving bad news from Iraq since then but they are still hopeful that the situation would improve.

Funny how no one in this country knew what a 'Kurd' was before the invasion. These 'little' details are fed to people to excuse campaigns like this.

I know what you mean but forget about the intentions Tahir. I'm sure Kurds are all happy that now people in the west know what a Kurd is.

 

[Martin]

What?

It's pretty weird trying to argue that Saddam wasn't so bad and was better left alone (which is basically what you seem to be doing) by playing down the Kurd issue. I could understand if it was some bogus US foreign policy objective type argument, but this?

 

[Maresca]

I really hope so. We used to have Iraqi neighbors a couple of years ago and they believed there was no other way to get rid of Saddam in Iraq. They have been receiving bad news from Iraq since then but they are still hopeful that the situation would improve.



I know what you mean but forget about the intentions Tahir. I'm sure Kurds are all happy that now people in the west know what a Kurd is.

without the US help, the Saddam family was going to stay for 100 years.. there was no other way than this.

 

[Zé Tahir]

It's pretty weird trying to argue that Saddam wasn't so bad and was better left alone (which is basically what you seem to be doing) by playing down the Kurd issue. I could understand if it was some bogus US foreign policy objective type argument, but this?

You've clearly misunderstood me. I was just replying to Aaron's post about the 'poor Kurds'. While that's not wrong it should be noted that know one knew about them until the idea of invading Iraq came about.

 

[Martin]

You've clearly misunderstood me. I was just replying to Aaron's post about the 'poor Kurds'. While that's not wrong it should be noted that know one knew about them until the idea of invading Iraq came about.

And that would be wrong why?

 

[Zé Tahir]

I know what you mean but forget about the intentions Tahir. I'm sure Kurds are all happy that now people in the west know what a Kurd is.

Majority still don't know Actually the Kurds should be pissed about this. Americans now know about Afghans, Iraqis, Taliban, Al Qaeda, Hezb'Allah, Shia, Sunni, Iran, Ahmadinejad, Kandahar, Kabul, Baghdad, Basra...

These are pretty much everyday words now but Kurd? Very few know what/who they are

And that would be wrong why?

Saying that you did something because of something while that's a lie is ok with you?


Ok.... I get on these forum every day just to see you Martin

 

[Martin]

Saying that you did something because of something while that's a lie is ok with you?

If you're suggesting that Bush was undecided between telling the truth and using the Kurd story then you're living in a fantasy world. Whatever they said would have been a lie. It's always a lie. So why object to that in particular?

Besides, "Saddam had WMDs", remember? They already had their pretext made.

Ok.... I get on these forum every day just to see you Martin

I know you do, big hug

 

[king Ale]

Saying that you did something because of something while that's a lie is ok with you?

Some would buy that but many wouldn't. The Kurds' story and then what Aaron said was true though

 

[Zé Tahir]

I don't even know why you're arguing with me. At this point I see no benefit in continuing with this argument

edit: That goes to you too Hoori.

 

[Maresca]

I'm American, so I was saying thanks for agreeing with me, but I am sorry about Iraq, how war-torn it is...

Burke, it is right that the security is bad for now. not in all areas. in the north the economy is getting better, the cities are growing, there are so many forign schools, companies etc.. Iraq has so much oil, that all the people in Irak could have a very beautiful life. the people in Irak did not see anything from the benifits of selling oil at the Saddam time. now it is changing. the poeple get better wages, they can have a better life, but as I said in the regions in the middle and south there is the security problem. I really hope this will get better soon. I mean it is better now comparing to 5 years ago.. we will see this..

 

[Martin]

I don't even know why you're arguing with me. At this point I see no benefit in continuing with this argument

edit: That goes to you too Hoori.

Because you can't resist, stop lying to yourself

 

[Zé Tahir]

Because you can't resist, stop lying to yourself

That is true but today I'm fasting so I'm able to walk away from this relatively easier

 

[Martin]

That is true but today I'm fasting so I'm able to walk away from this relatively easier

You're off the hook, go get yourself something to eat.

 

[Zé Tahir]

You're off the hook, go get yourself something to eat.

There's another 3.5 hrs left. Meanwhile, I need help with Ubuntu