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MikeM

Footballing Hipster celebrating 4th place with Tuz
Sep 21, 2008
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This shit happens almost everywhere. Go youtube the Bosnians putting on fucking firework displays in Norway and Belgium (supposed smart, safe countries).

If anyone is hell bent on making a political point, it's always going to be really difficult to stop them.
 

Hængebøffer

Senior Member
Jun 4, 2009
25,185
No, but you may want it to be one.

You can blame the Italians because this stuff seems to happen more so at their own venues than other nations across Europe. There is a problem here, you folks have to admit it.



They do, but I'd say that's a bit excessive. I'd think sharing of information between officials would be enough.
But we haven't heard of any big problems lately. These guys we saw tonight would fuck up any stadium in the world.
 

Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
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But, in his mind, that is a fascist thing to do, but still the italians are stupid because of the problems tonight :boh:
Once you start banning people from leaving the country over the suspicion of causing trouble at foreign football venues, where does it end? You can start banning travel for any reason after that.

We have something called a terrorist watch list here in the US with over a million Americans named on the list, and they can't fly if they come to the airport, even after searches. This sort of police state grid is a major inconvenience to people, and it doesn't keep us safe. Christmas bomber anyone?
 

Hængebøffer

Senior Member
Jun 4, 2009
25,185
Once you start banning people from leaving the country over the suspicion of causing trouble at foreign football venues, where does it end? You can start banning travel for any reason after that.

We have something called a terrorist watch list here in the US with over a million Americans named on the list, and they can't fly if they come to the airport, even after searches. This sort of police state grid is a major inconvenience to people, and it doesn't keep us safe. Christmas bomber anyone?
I agree with you. My point was, that the only way to prevent these guys from trouble, was not allowing them out of their country.
But they would probably fuck up their own streets anyway
 
Sep 1, 2002
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Once you start banning people from leaving the country over the suspicion of causing trouble at foreign football venues, where does it end? You can start banning travel for any reason after that.

We have something called a terrorist watch list here in the US with over a million Americans named on the list, and they can't fly if they come to the airport, even after searches. This sort of police state grid is a major inconvenience to people, and it doesn't keep us safe. Christmas bomber anyone?

They are only banned from travelling to countries where matches are being played at that time.

serbia should be banned from international football for a couple of years until they sort their shit out
Yes, but a couple of years might not be enough, so I suggest that no fans of there's should be allowed to travel and all home games be played in a neutral country.

Football, afterall, belongs to the true fans and can heal and lift them.
 

Hængebøffer

Senior Member
Jun 4, 2009
25,185
He was obviously up to no good.

I've seen the UK police contain areas of trouble in an instant. I can't comment on other forces around Europe.
You have cameras in every street. Wether you like it or not the freedom in England is more limited. But we still hear about hooliganism in England. It's just moved away from the stadium.
But still, you guys have done a great job.
 

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