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spurdo

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Jun 4, 2016
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Can't believe Finland only need to beat Liechtenstein to be in their first ever Euros tournament in history. PERKELE! Greece never bailed their debts but tonight's result against Bosnia & Herzegovina covers that with interest.
 

Osman

Koul Khara!
Aug 30, 2002
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Can't believe Finland only need to beat Liechtenstein to be in their first ever Euros tournament in history. PERKELE! Greece never bailed their debts but tonight's result against Bosnia & Herzegovina covers that with interest.
Yep super impressive. All nordic countries except Norway will qualify it seems.


Tho Norway saved Sweden tonight by drawing with Romania last minute.
 

Wings

Banter era connoiseur
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Jul 15, 2002
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With pleasure. Like almost every scandal there is, England should take serious blame here. I have never seen such a ridiculous propaganda and disrespect like the one from the English players and media this whole week. They created a giant amount of tension and unnecessary pressure on a very sensitive topic where there wasnt even a glimpse of danger prior to their comments and promises to boycott and walk off the pitch. They publicly labelled my country as racist while there are like a thousand times more racist incidents in England than Bulgaria. They continue to refer to us as "gypsies", something that can be heard during the first game at Wembley, but noone gave a fuck since its not a big deal when its against a small irrelevant country like mine. Now before you jump at the bandwagon and condemn the home fans, lets talk about the away fans for a minute.

English fans away is the epitome of an awful human being, they are by far the worst of the worst. They cause trouble everywhere they go. One fan died yesterday in Sofia btw, dont know if its reported on global media, a 32 y old, who got drunk with alcohol that is way too strong for a delicate British organism and doped with drugs that are way out of his league. There are different reports stating that around 500 away fans peed and puked all over our downtown during the whole day, I have seen with my eyes extremely drunk fatsos taking their pants off and peeing on buildings, cars and even in the middle of the street. Mothers with kids walk by and see grown ass men peeing and puking on public places. Disgusting.

There was a fight yesterday, that police intercepted quickly. Apparently Crystal palace and a team called Brighton are like arch enemies and their "ultras" arranged a mass fight on our main Street, throwing tables and chairs at each other. One of them got taken to a hospital because he fell several times on his face on a broken glass. I repeat, not once, SEVERAL times!

You would probably say, ok, who cares about that, a single, isolated incidents. Guess again, this happens every single summer when British tourists storm our seaside. They thrash everything, they pee and puke everywhere, their only goal is to come here for the cheap alcohol that they cant handle and act like pigs. Terrible, terrible bunch of people.

So, back to the so-called racism incident. By creating a tension out of nowhere, they gave the idea in the heads of a group of idiots that this can be a chance to protest against the football union and bring them severe fines, punishments and bans in order to get those who rule with unseen incompetence to resign, those last few years are the absolute low in the history of our football, we slowly walked all the way from 4th in the world to a dwarf and midget team who will find it hard to better teams like Gibraltar and San Marino, with all due respect to those teams. The ones responsible for that should face the consequences of their corrupt deeds and incompetence and be punished for their crimes.

If you are still reading let me note and underline that I, in no way am defending a group of morons, I cannot since Sofia is an international city with many cultures and ethnic population. I don't consider myself a racist, cant be since I have black friends, I have indian friends, like most of the younger generation here. What happened is a shame, it happens everywhere, and it's a shame everywhere.

Imperative to note is that something like that would have never happened if the English hadnt acted in that unprofessional and disrespectful manner, they created a problem where there wasnt one. England is not the first team with black players to come here, if we were racist it would have happened every game or at least once before last night. Again, shame that it happened, but all these cryings and name calling from the English and now the world while playing the role of the victim is waay too much for me. Cheers.
There have been many incidents regarding racism in stadiums in Bulgaria, especially in matches involving the NT and in European competition. Let's not sweep that under the carpet. Having said that this particular incident looked planned and staged to try and get maximum reaction. Maybe it served its purpose as heads are rolling but at what price? The other issue with this is that if people in Bulgaria excuse it by justifying the end then how low are you prepared to sink to achieve your objectives? @tosh_rose
 

tosh_rose

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Aug 21, 2010
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Yep, some accurate facts in this article, there is a handful of retards and dumbasses here for years, just like anywhere else, they are the same bunch of lowlifes and for some of them that wasn't their first similar offence. Again, fuck them, but they do not represent me, or my family, friends and generally people that I communicate with.

The incident is starting to look more and more like a political act, which is far worse when looking at the big picture. Article says that the Prime minister asked for Football Union's chief resignation and he filed it. He didn't, he refused to resign and FU (football union)'s PR gave an interview saying that the government and the PM cannot interfere in FU and cannot ask for a resignation. Two hours later the PM sent our Organized Crime Force (special cops unit/baretas - being the equivalent in other countries) to storm the Headquarters of the FU and collect all kinds of data and documents for an investigation for match-fixing, toto nero, irregularities in ref appointments, financial froads. During the raid FU's official website confirmed that Borislav Mihaylov resigns from his position and will present his official resignation at the FU Congress this Friday. He's been at the reigns for 14 years, in which he received millions of millions of money and did practically nothing, every time he was re-elected with no competition at all. Given the state our country is these last decades the first thing that seems logical is that he became a burden or a "problem" so he got removed, like things get done around here. One of the clowns from the stadium turns out to be a familiar face, close to the PM's party, easy to conclude that since the idiots didnt even try to cover they faces. There is a strong belief, still not proven of course, that this was a staged sharade, those clowns were selected, paid and ordered to go to the stadium and act the way they did.

Having said that and still condemning the act of racism, I still stand by what I said, I find it hypocritical for a country like England to label a country like Bulgaria racist. I find it offensive and unacceptable referring to the entire nation as "animals" and "racists", especially when you take the history of both countries into account. Like how one is an ex global empire gaining their riches and power through slave trading and slave labour, while the other wrote a paragraph into its first Constitution after setting free from the Ottoman empire that any slave, regardless of his nationality, race, sex and religion should be treated as a free man as soon as he enters our borders. Several decades later a little country like mine stood up against the biggest dogs on Earth, fought and refused to surrender its more than 10000 jews to a certain moustache, granting them safe exit, which is not something that many countries can say about them(since its a proud moment in history I do know the exact number), and also not the kind of thing that a racist country would do. I also find it ridiculous to be teached about moral, ethics and be urged to "step into the 21st century" on a very sensitive matter by a country that has around 20 registered racism incidents inside their domestic leagues in last month alone, while the author of the article barely manages to name 4 into Bulgaria's account for almost 10 years period.

I also stand behind this - Brits overreacted here, for sure, its about time they stop with their whining, baby crying and name labeling, its getting pathetic and pretty sure that crosses some international laws. The whole world saw what happened, the act was condemned and criticized, the team will be punished, the federation will be fined and banned, rightfully and deservedly, just like with any case of racism that happens on a weekly basis, its not something new, the big noise is due to the fact that England is involved and this time they are on the receiving end for a change, being the victim. That doesn't give them the right to publicly insult and label an entire nation the things they say, thats a very, very classless and ignorant act.

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There have been many incidents regarding racism in stadiums in Bulgaria, especially in matches involving the NT and in European competition. Let's not sweep that under the carpet. Having said that this particular incident looked planned and staged to try and get maximum reaction. Maybe it served its purpose as heads are rolling but at what price? The other issue with this is that if people in Bulgaria excuse it by justifying the end then how low are you prepared to sink to achieve your objectives? @tosh_rose
@Ali, dont want to repeat things I said in my post to the article @il brutto shared, but you are right, its not an isolated incident, it is in fact undeniable that these scenes happen in Bulgaria too . It did look staged and planned, to what purpose it remains to be seen, yesterday police arrested 5 people for the charges I mentioned, the head of ref comission (or dont know how its called exactly), the head that assignes refs to the matches, rest are people working for the FU, a prosecutor will decide today whether to bring ahead with the charges and if someone will be charged at all, since our justice system is close to the level of our football.

As to whether the people here excuse or justify what happened, other fellow members here may share their view if they feel like it, but the majority of the population do not stand behind that kind of behaviour, judging by the reactions on TV, social platforms... Like every country, we also have a certain % of the population that consist of retards and complete fools, no education, no primary skills whatsoever, cant read, write in the official language, let alone speak a foreign one, very easy to manipulate. They are in fact part of the main electorate for any elections - their vote can easily be bought and they can easily be manipulated to do something. So, hypothetically, they can be racists today, sexists next week and xenophobes next month, but like someone mentioned, most of those people all over the world are in fact cowards and dont do it in person, on ground. The rest of them however...
 
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