In the category 'redundant': Catholicism (21 Viewers)

[Tifoso]

The idea is that Catholicism (and Catholics and their beliefs as a result) are (or correspond with) what the Vatican (the essence of Catholicism) believes. A person who doesn't share those believes can, hence, not be a Catholic.

A Christian, undoubtedly, but not a Catholic.

Life here for a believing RC is a bit like being a Juve player in training.

DP would not (well, should not) "pick and choose" the parts of Cap's training regimen that he "likes", that don't disturb him.

He either puts himself in Cap's hands, trusting him, following all of his regimen, or he doesn't and ceases to be a Juve player (sooner or later).

 

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[Respaul]

So just because I don't agree with everything the Pope says...I'm not Catholic. Just because I am subject to natural sin like everybody else in this world...I'm not only not a catholic but also a supposed hypocrite.

Its the definition of the word... There are only two accepted forms of catholicism....

Anglo-catholic - (church of england - Those that live to the rules of the monarchy of england)

And

Roman catholic (commonly known as Catholic) - Those that live to the rules of the pope in rome

So you cannot call yourself a catholic if you do not follow the teachings of the pope... That is not an attack on you, that is what the religion is... As sucjh if you do not follow the popes wishes... you are not catholic, but christian

And I'm sure posters such as Paul and Seven are the right people to judge who everybody is on this forum without having the slightest clue what sort of lives people live.

As i said any claims i made about your lifestyle are from what you have said on this forum... we have discussed all these subjects before..

And as for "the likes of Paul"... Fvck off

 

[Seven]

As a "former" Catholic, I never knew that. It would also imply very sharply that my local church here was "violating" those principles.

Are you sure your church was catholic? It could have been just christian.

 

[Seven]

Its the definition of the word... There are only two accepted forms of catholicism....

Anglo-catholic - (church of england - Those that live to the rules of the monarchy of england)

And

Roman catholic (commonly known as Catholic) - Those that live to the rules of the pope in rome

So if you call you cannot call yourself a catholic if you do not follow the teachings of the pope... That is not an attack on you, that is what the religion is... As sucjh if you do not follow the popes wishes... you are not catholic, but christian



As i said any claims i made about your lifestyle are from what you have said on this forum... we have discussed all these subjects before..

And as for "the likes of Paul"... Fvck off

You have to admit it's funny we know it better than him.

 

[ßöмßäяðîëя]

You don't want to know what those medieval popes did.

I've heard stories and seen pictures.

 

[Seven]

I'm sorry, but Paul's post is simply hilarious. Can't stop laughing.

 

[Martin]

Are you sure your church was catholic? It could have been just christian.

That sounds like something you would have said tongue in cheek. Yes, of course it was Catholic.

http://www.katolsk.no/biografi/olav/kirker.htm
http://www.katolsk.no/mn/Trondheim/
http://no.wikipedia.org/wiki/Den_katolske_kirke_i_Norge "1902: St. Olav Trondheim"

 

[Tifoso]

I was just going to say that I was proud to be a forumer here, where we could discuss this type of topic without name-calling. *sigh*

 

[Shoryuken]

its the same with all religions its a matter of faith
and in all religions there are people who dont follow what their leader says and still class themselves as followers

Yes, but the same people who doesnt follow the popes words are usually the same people who doesnt follow the good book since the popes words come from that book. And not following the book to the exact is called idolatry, its means you come up with your own God that you are more comfortable with and that is the only sin that god wont forgive. Thats a fact, its in the bible.

Im not arguing here or expressing my own beliefs, i just thought id share that with all of you.

 

[Bjerknes]

Ca·thol·i·cism Audio pronunciation of "catholicism" ( P ) Pronunciation Key (k-thl-szm)
n.
The faith, doctrine, system, and practice of a Catholic church, especially the Roman Catholic Church.


How am I a member of the Catholic Church? Because I was Baptized into the Catholic Church, thus making me a Catholic.

Yes Paul, fvck you too.

 

[Seven]

Ca·thol·i·cism Audio pronunciation of "catholicism" ( P ) Pronunciation Key (k-thl-szm)
n.
The faith, doctrine, system, and practice of a Catholic church, especially the Roman Catholic Church.


How am I a member of the Catholic Church? Because I was Baptized into the Catholic Church, thus making me a Catholic.

Yes Paul, fvck you too.

So you highlighted one, but left out the other three words. Oh jeez, the other three prove Shadowfax' theory. Damn, Andy. Try to come up with something better next time. I can't believe you thought that was going to work.

 

[Slagathor]

As a "former" Catholic, I never knew that. It would also imply very sharply that my local church here was "violating" those principles.

That reminds me of protestants. The idea of the Protestant church is that everybody is free to interpret the Bible the way they wish. In contrast: Catholic church ceremonies tend to be based on the traditional belief of a Priest explaining what the Bible is all about whereas Protestant church ceremonies are based more on the principle of coming together to discuss one's religion under the guidance of a reverent without authority.

Protestants are hence more 'free' because the equivalent of the Vatican (and its rules and implications) in Catholicism simply doesn't exist.

 

[Seven]

That reminds me of protestants. The idea of the Protestant church is that everybody is free to interpret the Bible the way they wish. In contrast: Catholic church ceremonies tend to be based on the traditional belief of a Priest explaining what the Bible is all about whereas Protestant church ceremonies are based more on the principle of coming together to discuss one's religion under the guidance of a reverent without authority.

Protestants are hence more 'free' because the equivalent of the Vatican (and its rules and implications) in Catholicism simply doesn't exist.

How can you not abuse that system?

 

[Tifoso]

Put yet another way

If you choose to play calcio, you can't just pick the rules you like. You have to follow ALL the rules (well, except maybe deciding a WC Final on Free Kicks )--or you aren't playing calcio anymore.

And can we cut the name calling? Please?

 

[Respaul]

Yes Paul, fvck you too.

You're the one that suggested i was a piece of shit on your shoe not worthy of a discussion with you, so dont come that bullshit with me...

If you have anything else to say to me on that issue... pm me

 

[Martin]

That reminds me of protestants. The idea of the Protestant church is that everybody is free to interpret the Bible the way they wish. In contrast: Catholic church ceremonies tend to be based on the traditional belief of a Priest explaining what the Bible is all about whereas Protestant church ceremonies are based more on the principle of coming together to discuss one's religion under the guidance of a reverent without authority.

And I thought my church was very modernistic and progressive, turns out it was downright rebellious.

 

[Seven]

Put yet another way

If you choose to play calcio, you can't just pick the rules you like. You have to follow ALL the rules (well, except maybe deciding a WC Final on Free Kicks )--or you aren't playing calcio anymore.

And can we cut the name calling? Please?

That I do agree with. If you're going to call yourself a catholic, then you'll have to follow ALL the rules.

 

[Seven]

And I thought my church was very modernistic and progressive, turns out it was downright rebellious.

I don't understand why they called themselves catholics then.

 

[Respaul]

Put yet another way

If you choose to play calcio, you can't just pick the rules you like. You have to follow ALL the rules (well, except maybe deciding a WC Final on Free Kicks )--or you aren't playing calcio anymore.

int:

 

[Rami]

That reminds me of protestants. The idea of the Protestant church is that everybody is free to interpret the Bible the way they wish. In contrast: Catholic church ceremonies tend to be based on the traditional belief of a Priest explaining what the Bible is all about whereas Protestant church ceremonies are based more on the principle of coming together to discuss one's religion under the guidance of a reverent without authority.

Protestants are hence more 'free' because the equivalent of the Vatican (and its rules and implications) in Catholicism simply doesn't exist.

Well the way both of them originated is evident in the way they operate...