In the category 'redundant': Catholicism (17 Viewers)

[Slagathor]

How about we just make a thread condemning catholics and keep the banter out of this one? Any takers on shoving the noses of specific catholic believers in the dirt?

So Catholicism... nice idea et all, but such a shame it has become a synonym of 'judgemental'

We don't need it, it only makes the world a worse place than it already is as Catholics go around judging people who are 'different', showing them no respect and stripping them of their freedom.

Catholicism: should it have been left behind in the 20th century? Discuss

 

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[Bjerknes]

I, as a Catholic shortly after birth, do not go around judging people and holding a gun to the heads of others ordering them to change their lives around to fit my beliefs. All the Catholics I personally know live and let live, and that's my feeling on this subject.

 

[Seven]

I, as a Catholic shortly after birth, do not go around judging people and holding a gun to the heads of others ordering them to change their lives around to fit my beliefs. All the Catholics I personally know live and let live, and that's my feeling on this subject.

Perhaps you're like that. But the impression I get with a lot of Catholics is that they think exactly like you. Only to be the most intolerant people there are. And then they even go on about the fact I should live and let live.

 

[Slagathor]

I, as a Catholic shortly after birth, do not go around judging people and holding a gun to the heads of others ordering them to change their lives around to fit my beliefs. All the Catholics I personally know live and let live, and that's my feeling on this subject.

That doesn't go for the representatives of Catholicism though: the Vatican. Don't you feel you need to distance yourself from them? How proud can you be of referring to yourself as a "Catholic" when your religion is being abused by those in power to express some of the most judgemental views in the world and enforce them on entire nations?

 

[Espectro]

Gray would have loved this thread

 

[Martin]

That doesn't go for the representatives of Catholicism though: the Vatican. Don't you feel you need to distance yourself from them? How proud can you be of referring to yourself as a "Catholic" when your religion is being abused by those in power to express some of the most judgemental views in the world and enforce them on entire nations?

Hey, a nice portable question which could be applied to other religions

 

[mikhail]

Hey, a nice portable question which could be applied to other religions

Mostly true. Many of the world's "Catholics" are in disagreement with the church on a lot of points of theology. Contraceptives and abortion are probably the two biggest in the West. Then you've got the greedy, the agressive, those who don't help their fellow man.

Actually, I'm hard pressed to come up with an actual Christian I know. (Graham doesn't count)

If people really believe in God, in the afterlife, in church doctrine, why don't they live like they do? Or do they just go through the motions?

 

[Zé Tahir]

Everyone keeps saying how they feel personaly about others, but what does your religions say about it? For instance, Andy and Fabi, I understand your views on things, but that doesn't mean anything, what matters is what your religion teaches. What the bible says, and how you interpret that is what it comes down to. So what does the bible have to say about homosexuality for instance? Do you have any knowledge about this?

 

[Martin]

If people really believe in God, in the afterlife, in church doctrine, why don't they live like they do? Or do they just go through the motions?

I think you answered your own question. How many people do you know who live life the way they believe they should?

Speaking of Catholic, I'm going to use the Irish stereotype here and ask if you're one too?

 

[Seven]

At least you can push Jews around.

 

[mikhail]

I think you answered your own question. How many people do you know who live life the way they believe they should?

Speaking of Catholic, I'm going to use the Irish stereotype here and ask if you're one too?

Fair question. I come from a Catholic family and was raised one. I would call myself agnostic these days though.

 

[Tifoso]

Gray is Christian?

And you do so know one. Me.

 

[Seven]

Mostly true. Many of the world's "Catholics" are in disagreement with the church on a lot of points of theology. Contraceptives and abortion are probably the two biggest in the West. Then you've got the greedy, the agressive, those who don't help their fellow man.

Actually, I'm hard pressed to come up with an actual Christian I know. (Graham doesn't count)

If people really believe in God, in the afterlife, in church doctrine, why don't they live like they do? Or do they just go through the motions?

My mother considers the former pope a murderer for being opposed against condoms. Have to say I agree because what he says is law in some countries. He had to power to save lives and chose not to.

 

[Martin]

Fair question. I come from a Catholic family and was raised one. I would call myself agnostic these days though.

same here actually

 

[Seven]

Fair question. I come from a Catholic family and was raised one. I would call myself agnostic these days though.

In all reality the only thing you can be without being a total and utter moron is agnostic. I don't want to be offensive towards religions, but it's so blatant we know shit, that it sounds surreal not to be agnostic.

 

[Tifoso]

In all reality the only thing you can be without being a total and utter moron is agnostic. I don't want to be offensive towards religions, but it's so blatant we know shit, that it sounds surreal not to be agnostic.

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2. People get more religious as they grow older. You'll see.

 

[Bjerknes]

That doesn't go for the representatives of Catholicism though: the Vatican. Don't you feel you need to distance yourself from them? How proud can you be of referring to yourself as a "Catholic" when your religion is being abused by those in power to express some of the most judgemental views in the world and enforce them on entire nations?

How exactly are we forcing them out on other nations? And no, I don't have to feel ashamed because my beliefs don't solely originate from the Vatican..you have to look deeper, Erik.

 

[Slagathor]

2. People get more religious as they grow older. You'll see.

You're saying it goes hand in hand with the decline in the number of brain cells?

 

[Seven]

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2. People get more religious as they grow older. You'll see.

IMO that's because you become religious because you're scared. It sounds logical to me you suddenly start believing in God. Because if there turns out to be one and you're wrong, that'll pretty much suck.

However there's another reason to be agnostic:

When you're a christian for example, a great deal of your life will basically consist of suffering, since you can't do certain things. Then when you get up there in heaven it turns out you were wrong. So you'll be made to suffer for all eternity. The odds of you picking out the right religion are pretty slim, so being agnostic is a safer bet.

 

[Tifoso]

You're saying it goes hand in hand with the decline in the number of brain cells?

Nice

Actually, it may go along with that, yeah. As we start to slow down, it suddenly dawns on one that one is not immortal (at least not in an earthly sense ). You see too much to be able to ignore Divine intervention. Or miracles (trust me on that one).