Immigration (3 Viewers)

[Dostoevsky]

Haven't the French banks asked Germany to bail them out? I hear mumblings that if this doesn't happen the EU will collapse? It was 6 in the morning and I was driving home from work so I don't know if I heard it right

Yeah, French banks are doing awful, like Societe Generale. I don't think they will be bailed out, I see them dying. UniCredit is also on the verge of it. If banks continue to fail we'll see a party At the moment they are planning to bail out Dexia, which is huge money. It will be painful to see that. And I don't EU surviving many years. Spenders vs savers will never work, they are killing Germany.

 

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[swag]

Sucks, Hoori. One of my best friends is from a Persian immigrant family and they have no intention of going back. (Her name is Farzaneh -- how Persian is that? ) Sounds to me like your best bet is to sit out like the Libyans have. There's no guarantee that will happen (look at the Cubans), but staying under such conditions isn't even an option.

Good luck. This is a major decision. But I do think you would be wise to consider living elsewhere. Not so much because of the potential for war or anything. More the opportunity to do something productive with your life. My friend Farzaneh could never go back partly because of the government regime, but also partly for how she wants to live her life and what society there expects of a typical Persian woman.

 

[swag]

i dont believe or listen to anyone, this is pretty obvious stuff and it has nothing to do with fiscal issues its strictly borrowing/solvency and investor confidence, so if shit is fucked anywhere everyone suffers.

What Deneb said...

IMO, it would be foolish to question the Big D on issues of this nature.

 

[Cheesio]

Damn cheese, you going to leave a brother in the cold like that?

You are welcome here in Morocco bro

 

[Itztli]

You are welcome here in Morocco bro

 

[king Ale]

I've emigrated twice already, once through my parents' decision, once on my own. I don't think there will be a third. So perhaps you're asking me, but what is your question more specifically?

Despite the advice I'm getting from people here, my main concern is not where to immigrate but rather if I should immigrate at all.

Leaving family ties behind (my parents will never move), starting a new adventure without having absolutely no idea of what I'm gonna face as an Iranian girl are certainly issues but from a more comprehensive point of view, shouldn't we all feel responsible for what's going on in our homelands? If we consider ourselves those who can change things for better, should not we stay and try for it? Or it's just too sentimental thinking?

If I ever decide to leave, US and Canada are the places I will consider but I first need to know if it's the right thing to do.

What that consoles me a bit [] is that I can always move "temporarily" in order to have a broader knowledge of immigration and its pros and cons and that I can always come back but then again I don't know anyone (Iranians) who came back after immigrating to other places.

 

[Noodle]

Sweden.

My nigga knows wassup.

 

[Osman]

first of all dont take this attitude with me i didnt just read some econ book or watched some cnn special i have been working in FINANCE for over 9 years, i have traded, moved and managed 100s of millions of dollars and participated in major mergers and acquisitions in other words i actually know what i am talking about. It's double dipping for a very simple fact: europe. The us has many times raised the debt ceiling before, tea baggers tried to make a political stunt out of it. way out or no way out, what you fail to realize is if the US fails economically on a scale of 10 it will mean a failure for everyone else at a scale of at least a 100.

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

Leaving family ties behind (my parents will never move), starting a new adventure without having absolutely no idea of what I'm gonna face as an Iranian girl are certainly issues but from a more comprehensive point of view, shouldn't we all feel responsible for what's going on in our homelands? If we consider ourselves those who can change things for better, should not we stay and try for it? Or it's just too sentimental thinking?

Yep. Being born there doesn't mean you have to subject yourself to the conditions.

 

[Osman]

Sweden.

Nah, I would say like Suns said, to go to english speaking country simply just to avoid the language barrier, that is a big obstacle for an adult immigrant, bypass that and its better chance to start over.

 

[Cheesio]

This guy summed it up perfectly. End the Federal reserve, end the fractionnal banking system and end Goldmann and Sachs.

 

[king Ale]

Sucks, Hoori. One of my best friends is from a Persian immigrant family and they have no intention of going back. (Her name is Farzaneh -- how Persian is that? ) Sounds to me like your best bet is to sit out like the Libyans have. There's no guarantee that will happen (look at the Cubans), but staying under such conditions isn't even an option.

Good luck. This is a major decision. But I do think you would be wise to consider living elsewhere. Not so much because of the potential for war or anything. More the opportunity to do something productive with your life. My friend Farzaneh could never go back partly because of the government regime, but also partly for how she wants to live her life and what society there expects of a typical Persian woman.

It's not only your friend, I barely know anyone who came back/plans to come back after immigration even though they are complaining from time to time

And that name is pure Persian meaning "wise"

 

[Suns]

Anyway, how easy is it to immigrate anyway? Its not like they're welcoming people these days, right?

 

[AndreaCristiano]

oh my dear!

Quoted the wrong thing

 

[AndreaCristiano]

This guy summed it up perfectly. End the Federal reserve, end the fractionnal banking system and end Goldmann and Sachs.

Yea man!

 

[king Ale]

Anyway, how easy is it to immigrate anyway? Its not like they're welcoming people these days, right?

It had become a bit easier for us Iranians to move to the US before they pulled this story of Iranian government trying to kill the Saudi ambassador

 

[IrishZebra]

Emigrate hmm free movement of peoples

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[GordoDeCentral]

lol osman this is basic econ, you 'use' as the guy said 'inflation', which is actually done by reducing the borrowing rate, to spruce economic activity to tackle unemployment. Anyone giving out easy answers like this is just naive, the fed is unfortunately a necessary evil.

 

[GordoDeCentral]

This guy summed it up perfectly. End the Federal reserve, end the fractionnal banking system and end Goldmann and Sachs.

theres no 'and', its just goldman sachs

 

[swag]

Despite the advice I'm getting from people here, my main concern is not where to immigrate but rather if I should immigrate at all.

Leaving family ties behind (my parents will never move), starting a new adventure without having absolutely no idea of what I'm gonna face as an Iranian girl are certainly issues but from a more comprehensive point of view, shouldn't we all feel responsible for what's going on in our homelands? If we consider ourselves those who can change things for better, should not we stay and try for it? Or it's just too sentimental thinking?

If I ever decide to leave, US and Canada are the places I will consider but I first need to know if it's the right thing to do.

What that consoles me a bit [] is that I can always move "temporarily" in order to have a broader knowledge of immigration and its pros and cons and that I can always come back but then again I don't know anyone (Iranians) who came back after immigrating to other places.

It's a tough question. I forgot what personality questionnaire it was, but it asked questions to figure out what kind of person you'd be under Nazi German rule: stay and fight the system (and likely be imprisoned), have the resources to flee the country for New York, enlist in the military, etc.?

There is a great argument about being there to bring about a better good and change from the inside of the system rather from the outside. But there are limits. Every person has to face their own. Because it's certainly going to play some identity tricks with you that you'll have to become somewhat okay with once you'd, say, leave.

It's not only your friend, I barely know anyone who came back/plans to come back after immigration even though they are complaining from time to time

And that name is pure Persian meaning "wise"

Fitting.