Is it an insult to you that I acknowledge other clubs having won more than us in Europe? You sound like a fan in denial. It's a friggn fact that Juventus have won less, but that doesn't change my loyalty, love or support for my team. I don't understand. I can criticise Juventus for the way Alex is being treated but the minute this becomes contextual to the behaviour of other teams in Europe, I am not loyal anymore.