Il Capitano Alessandro Del Piero (122 Viewers)

[Azzurri7]

Based on:

67 minutes against Parma.
14 minutes against Siena.
45 minutes against Bologna.
18 minutes against Catania.
31 minutes against Chievo.
120 minutes against Bologna in the Coppa Italia.
63 minutes against Novara.
35 minutes against Cagliari.
67 minutes against Milan in the Coppa Italia.
13 minutes against Chievo.
15 minutes against Genoa.

I didn't ask you to name me the matches he played IN. I asked you to name me the matches where you think he was horrible like you make him out to be.

The ones in bold he got good ratings from press and media. And 15min are never rated by press and media.

I didn't expect more from you anyway, you can't seem to provide anything that says Ale has been bad like you make it. You're naming matches where in most of them he got more and better ratings than his team-mates.

Do you want me to ignore all these matches and judge him based only on the excellent game he had against Roma in the Coppa Italia?

Excellent? I don't remember any of our strikers/forwards having excellent games(s) this season. The only excellent players in our squad this year are Pirlo, Lich and Barzagli.

I suggest you do ignore the other matches because he was good in most of his other little matches that he had.

Because I don't usually go to all thread after a game to post smiley faces or repeat what other people say, I think that bringing in Del Piero and NOT Quagliarella affected our chances to score that winning goal.

You think too much for my liking. Did you think the same when Quag played 15min against Bologna and didn't do a single good thing? Did you? Oh wait you were too busy waiting for Del Piero's 10min to rapidly come here and jizz your criticism and bashing towards him when most of our players who played 90min were below average but instead you come here to show your lame face.

Since you like to search my posts, I suggest you search my posts in this thread to know what I really think of the legend.

Can't bother. Your last 10-15 posts in this thread says it all.

And it's not like Del Piero needs more fans anyway.

Thank you for proving my point.

You welcome. I thought you should know by now that I'm biased when it comes to Del Piero. But I have my reasons while the ones who throw hatred towards him and show no respect have no reason.

That's the difference.

 

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[Sheik Yerbouti]

Wait, WTF?! Someone HATES Del Piero? How DARE you hate one of my finest creations, you imbecile! I shall have your head for that!

 

[Nzoric]

This thread is the epitome of retardation. He's 37, I love him too - but he is past it. I don't see whats wrong with that. Last season he was past it, too - we just didn't have anything better in attack. You can't expect a 36 (last year) year old to perform like he did when he was 27.

 

[Azzurri7]

This thread is the epitome of retardation. He's 37, I love him too - but he is past it. I don't see whats wrong with that. Last season he was past it, too - we just didn't have anything better in attack. You can't expect a 36 (last year) year old to perform like he did when he was 27.

Then avoid it.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

True. Fanboys should lower their expectations. He's still a classy player, but we can't expect him to be a game changer. If anything, Conte should've kept DP in his plans and make him a starter. But all that went outta the window with Vucinic and the eventual 4-3-3 switch.

 

[Nzoric]

Then avoid it.

Rab, I don't see why you're acting like this. You've been a cool guy ever since I joined the forums, why won't you just reply to the points I'm making? None of them have been disrespectful to Del Piero, not one.

True. Fanboys should lower their expectations. He's still a classy player, but we can't expect him to be a game changer. If anything, Conte should've kept DP in his plans and make him a starter. But all that went outta the window with Vucinic and the eventual 4-3-3 switch.

Yup. I'd be all in for playing him more if we had built a team for 4-4-2. The dilemma here is: Play Del Piero: weaken the midfield and indirectly the defense / more attacking dynamic and probably more goals scored too vs 4-3-3, midfield is playing like a dream, best defense in the league / less prolific frontline.

 

[K.O.]

I didn't ask you to name me the matches he played IN. I asked you to name me the matches where you think he was horrible like you make him out to be.

The ones in bold he got good ratings from press and media. And 15min are never rated by press and media.

I didn't expect more from you anyway, you can't seem to provide anything that says Ale has been bad like you make it. You're naming matches where in most of them he got more and better ratings than his team-mates.

He was bad most of the games, and horrible a few more. The only good showings from Del Piero were the first halfs of the matches against Roma and Bologna in the Coppa Italia.

And I'm not so sure about the good ratings from press and media, show me some ratings please, better be from different sources.

Excellent? I don't remember any of our strikers/forwards having excellent games(s) this season. The only excellent players in our squad this year are Pirlo, Lich and Barzagli.

I suggest you do ignore the other matches because he was good in most of his other little matches that he had.

Matri had several excellent games for us this season and should start every single game wnile Quag and Vucinic had more good displays than Del Piero.

Something that I definitely agree with you on, and already stated in Conte's thread, starting Borriello over Del Piero is just criminal.

You think too much for my liking. Did you think the same when Quag played 15min against Bologna and didn't do a single good thing? Did you? Oh wait you were too busy waiting for Del Piero's 10min to rapidly come here and jizz your criticism and bashing towards him when most of our players who played 90min were below average but instead you come here to show your lame face.

AGAIN, I didn't judge Ale based only on his 10 minutes appearance. While, you're talking about Quag failing to play good once or twice.

Can't bother. Your last 10-15 posts in this thread says it all.

And it's not like Del Piero needs more fans anyway.

Whatever makes you sleep well at night. I'm still a big Del Piero fan.

You welcome. I thought you should know by now that I'm biased when it comes to Del Piero. But I have my reasons while the ones who throw hatred towards him and show no respect have no reason.

That's the difference.

When I say Del Piero is past it or had several bad games, which obviously is the case whether your biased opinion agrees or not, I don't expect to be called a Del Piero hater. Afterall, we're posting in Juventus forums where it's impossible to hate on the greatest legend your club has ever produced. I was just reflecting on what Conte did wrong with that substitution and you diverted the discussion into this anti-Delpiero statements.

 

[Azzurri7]

True. Fanboys should lower their expectations. He's still a classy player, but we can't expect him to be a game changer. If anything, Conte should've kept DP in his plans and make him a starter. But all that went outta the window with Vucinic and the eventual 4-3-3 switch.

I have done that. My problem is with the 10-15min he's playing each 6 games. I'm not bothered that he's not starting I repeat again, not showing confidence in him and other bench players is what bother me. On the other hand people judging him against Genoa. Seriously?

Just like we have to lower our expectations, the haters or whatever you want to call them have to show respect and not judge a player who's history is filled with honor and glory for this team for the past two decades just because he couldn't decide a match in a fucking 10min game. That's low. Who the fuck are they to judge Del Piero? This 37 years old man gives and spits blood for this team, who the fuck are they?

You want me to lower my expectations even more, then force me to be one by showing respect for Del Piero. But when no respect is shown then no has the right to question my biased opinion and judge my expectations.

 

[Nzoric]

I have done that. My problem is with the 10-15min he's playing each 6 games. I'm not bothered that he's not starting I repeat again, not showing confidence in him and other bench players is what bother me. On the other hand people judging him against Genoa. Seriously?

I agree. He should've been subbed in instead of Borrigol a few times. He's not as good as he was a few years ago, but swapping Matri for Borrigol won't change anything in attack. Plenty of critique pointed at Conte for that in generel mind you.

Who judged him on his 10min?

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

I have done that. My problem is with the 10-15min he's playing each 6 games. I'm not bothered that he's not starting I repeat again, not showing confidence in him and other bench players is what bother me. On the other hand people judging him against Genoa. Seriously?

Just like we have to lower our expectations, the haters or whatever you want to call them have to show respect and not judge a player who's history is filled with honor and glory for this team for the past two decades just because he couldn't decide a match in a fucking 10min game. That's low. Who the fuck are they to judge Del Piero? This 37 years old man gives and spits blood for this team, who the fuck are they?

You want me to lower my expectations even more, then force me to be one by showing respect for Del Piero. But when no respect is shown then no has the right to question my biased opinion and judge my expectations.

Agreed on everything. I've always shown respect to Del Piero. I don't think I'll ever see a player as classy as him. EVER!

 

[Azzurri7]

He was bad most of the games, and horrible a few more. The only good showings from Del Piero were the first halfs of the matches against Roma and Bologna in the Coppa Italia.

Lol, okay.

 

[K.O.]

Lol, okay.

So, where are the good media ratings of Del Piero you were talking about?

 

[Azzurri7]

I agree. He should've been subbed in instead of Borrigol a few times. He's not as good as he was a few years ago, but swapping Matri for Borrigol won't change anything in attack. Plenty of critique pointed at Conte for that in generel mind you.

Who judged him on his 10min?

Reminding everyone that he's past it after the Genoa again. The "he's past it" comment was raining all over.

I know Del Piero's ability more than anyone, I know what he's capable of, I know he's not the player he used to be because that's the nature of human body at this age but reminding people how he's past it and making him completely useless right after the Genoa game was lame.

There's a difference IMO between a player being past it (which is a normal thing) and a player being completely useless.

 

[Nzoric]

Reminding everyone that he's past it after the Genoa again. The "he's past it" comment was raining all over.

I know Del Piero's ability more than anyone, I know what he's capable of, I know he's not the player he used to be because that's the nature of human body but reminding people how he's past it right after the Genoa game was lame.

But he is, you just agreed to that. Perhaps the timing of my comment wasn't right, I was just disappointed that our game actually went down a notch when he came in. I know, he didn't get alot of balls into the box, nor did he have time to get into the game. That's why I made that comment.

 

[Azzurri7]

So, where are the good media ratings of Del Piero you were talking about?

Surf the internet you will find them. Newspapers and media had good ratings for him most of the times when he featured more than 30min.

 

[Azzurri7]

But he is, you just agreed to that. Perhaps the timing of my comment wasn't right, I was just disappointed that our game actually went down a notch when he came in. I know, he didn't get alot of balls into the box, nor did he have time to get into the game. That's why I made that comment.

Of course he is. Maradona was past his best in his last couple of years, so was Zidane at a club level, same goes with Ronaldo, Rivaldo, Totti now, Maldini, Baggio etc.. No fast legs in Ale like before which is normal but he can still contribute if given confidence, he's the only one in the team including Buffon that knows what it is to win and what it takes.

2months left for him maybe if we just focus on something else other than bashing him it would be really better and a lot more classy than focusing on small details such as he isn't the player he used to be. 2 months left and therefore as a fan of his I'd rather not read these things, at least not in his thread.

If someone thinks it's a good riddance then he's free but I'd rather they keep it for themselves since everyone knows what and where Ale stands for Juve fans and it's a very sensitive subject. Like Raz said (he barely makes sense) but he was spot on when he said Del Piero's subject is different than any other one. I'm all emotional when it's about him and I can't help it.

 

[Elvin]

actually I doubt any fool's loyalty to the club if he or she is not sensitive when it comes to ADP.

 

[Nzoric]

Of course he is. Maradona was past his best in his last couple of years, so was Zidane at a club level, same goes with Ronaldo, Rivaldo, Totti now, Maldini, Baggio etc.. No fast legs in Ale like before which is normal but he can still contribute if given confidence, he's the only one in the team including Buffon that knows what it is to win and what it takes.

2months left for him maybe if we just focus on something else other than bashing him it would be really better and a lot more classy than focusing on small details such as he isn't the player he used to be. 2 months left and therefore as a fan of his I'd rather not read these things, at least not in his thread.

If someone thinks it's a good riddance then he's free but I'd rather they keep it for themselves since everyone knows what and where Ale stands for Juve fans and it's a very sensitive subject. Like Raz said (he barely makes sense) but he was spot on when he said Del Piero's subject is different than any other one. I'm all emotional when it's about him and I can't help it.

I completely understand that. If you'd just read what I post from the start we wouldn't have the situation we had yesterday

 

[Raz]

I think when people are refering to he's useless(at least in my case) is that he is useless in our current system. It is obvious our team performs best with 433. And you like it or not, think i make sense or not he stil doesn't have place in this system. It's no disrispect it just simple logic. He can't play on the wing, he can't play in the center. So in order to make use of him we need to change the whole system we play, and I don't think he is good enough anymore or offers enough to do that.

 

[pati78]

Of course he is. Maradona was past his best in his last couple of years, so was Zidane at a club level, same goes with Ronaldo, Rivaldo, Totti now, Maldini, Baggio etc.. No fast legs in Ale like before which is normal but he can still contribute if given confidence, he's the only one in the team including Buffon that knows what it is to win and what it takes.

2months left for him maybe if we just focus on something else other than bashing him it would be really better and a lot more classy than focusing on small details such as he isn't the player he used to be. 2 months left and therefore as a fan of his I'd rather not read these things, at least not in his thread.

If someone thinks it's a good riddance then he's free but I'd rather they keep it for themselves since everyone knows what and where Ale stands for Juve fans and it's a very sensitive subject. Like Raz said (he barely makes sense) but he was spot on when he said Del Piero's subject is different than any other one. I'm all emotional when it's about him and I can't help it.

This is clear enough "If someone thinks it's a good riddance then he's free but I'd rather they keep it for themselves" of course when it come to ADP