Those players are paying themselves back with what Juventus are making from their names. How do you explain Juventus is still the highest income club in italy? One of the reasons is your heavily contracted players. These players are winning you games.
Some suggested selling Buffon to Man City for 50 million euros. We bought Diego and Melo for 50 million. I'd sell both and keep Buffon.
How do you think we were getting through in the past couple of years? It was these players who were keeping us decent. This year the whole squad has been plagued by injuries and naturally, being human, they suffered too. Which showed by us loosing a lot.
You want to fix our problems then start from the top. Get a proper management who are wiling to make from players are world class club again. Get a medical staff that can evaluate the players properly. Get a specialist that can decide if the training ground we are working on is good or not.
If you think Buffon is so way passed it how do you explain great clubs like Man U, Barcelona, ..etc are willing trash in whatever we ask for in order to sign him.
If Del Piero is old and grumpy, how do you explain him running around till the last moment of the game even in an off form day?
If Trezeguet is just another "regular" player, how do you explain our poor goal scoring capability during his winter injury period?
In our team we have some world class players that any team in the world would want, we have some average players, and some below average players (at best). The job of the management is, get rid of the below average, try to improve the average/above average players if they are willing to, and keep our world class players and form a proper team around them to learn from them.
Look at the points I posted in the tactics and formation thread. This is our real tactical problems. And this is why we are performing badly this season. The player played a role in it ofcourse, but tactically speaking I believe we do have a major problem.
Go back and read my posts.
#1) I didn't say Buffon was "Past it". If anything I think that now would be the time to strike while the iron is hot, and get the most money possible for him.
#2) Of all the "old Guard", Alex is the only one that I would want to keep.
#3) the fact that iaquinta, who started out with all guns blazing got hurt, didn't exactly help their cause, either.
And I do not disagree with you in the fact, as it painfully evident, that new management is needed. Yes, I was one of those who were extremely patient with the board, and were willing to give them the benefit of the doubt. However, I am not the type that is going to keep piling onthem, when I'm pretty sure that they know that they have failed miserably.
Do you want to know what my concern is? My concern is that whomever takes over is going to follow in the same trend that has taken place since even before calciopoli, and that was to hire mercenaries in order to create a quick fix solution to the problem, and that is something that I simply do not want to see anymore.
If they are talking revolution, then make it one. Start over again. take the money and bring in youth, and I'm talkling prodigious talents, not spending 25 million euros on a 24 year old striker who cut his teeth in another league, for the benefit of that said team receiving a huge profit for all of their hard work. No, that is not what I, as a lifelong supporter of Juventus, want to see.
I would be totally fine with the notion of this team taking a step back for the next year of two if it meant taking 3 steps forward for the next 7 years.
i don't know, maybe it is becauase of where I am from, and I see this cyclical event take place over various sports landscapes, that it wouldn't bother me nearly as much as I'm sure it would bother other people.
You talk tactics, and that's fine. I really haven't had a chance to pore over what you had said, but I will at some point, but now we are at a stage where there is a new coach, with new ideas, and the results are barely better than what they were before.
Do you attribute that to tactics, or the fact that juve doesn't have the required young legs to keep up with even mid table teams in the EPL? And if the answer is the latter, then what is the reason for that?
Here's your reason right here.
The lack of balls by this board, or any other board of a major Italian club, to take real chances on their youth products. The only reason why Inter can even hope to compete is not because of player development, such as what Man U has done with Rooney or Barca has done with Messi. It is because they have so much more money to spend than any other team in Italy that they can literally throw euros at the problem and fix it.
And that's great for them. That works in Italy, but it doesn't work anymore anywhere outside of the peninsula ,where teams can spend as much as Inter on the transfer market, AND have phoenomenal youth systems and faith in those players to develop.
Someone on this forum once said that "Stars don't make Juventus, Juventus make stars"
When was the last time that happened?