Il Capitano Alessandro Del Piero (134 Viewers)

[v1rtu4l]

Dp is made for a top squad, not a 5,6 place squad imo...give him the proper motivation and derby's that mean something and he will play football.

so you are saying cassano is better, because he can also excell in a 5th or siths place squad ? ^^

 

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[Bjerknes]

why not chiellini?

I meant take the reigns for Del Piero in his position of being our main man up top, not the leadership role. Chiellini would do fine, maybe Marchisio in a couple years.

 

[KB824]

Goal Keepers don't reach their peak until their thirties. And someone like Trez can play the Inzaghi role and be the poacher in the last few minutes of the game when things are tight. That's when experience counts.

Having said that though I think everyone but the board can see that rejuvenation was required after calciopoli and it just never happened. I think we've had a bad squad since 07/08, we had a respectable (sort of) season after promotion because other clubs still feared us for being Juventus. that soon wore off and teams started getting the better of us. We're just seeing now results we should have been getting a long time ago. The laziness of this board is criminal! Taking short cuts to plug holes with whatever was available for cheap at the time (not talking about Canna) was never going to work.

Juventus is more than just a team, we were one of the biggest clubs in the world, players would find extra and become better once they signed for us. Problem is now Juventus can't inspire payers to bring the best out of them selves. They can only do that with youth who are still in awe of the club. The big players will only see Juve as a step down now :frown:

1st point in regards to Buffon. All the more reason to sell him now, while he still has several good years left in him. His value isn't going to be any higher if they wait another year or two.

In regards to your other points as far as filling in the holes, I don't think that Juve had much of a choice but to overpay for players that most teams would have paid 2/3rds of the price for, because of the expectations with this team from its fans, and their own vision of what Juve should be.

That was a dangerous game to play, and the results clearly show, with a few exceptions, that they lost.

Which is all the more reason to blow it all up and start all over again. I'm totally cool with that, not that my opinion matters to anyone in Turin.

 

[GordoDeCentral]

I meant take the reigns for Del Piero in his position of being our main man up top, not the leadership role. Chiellini would do fine, maybe Marchisio in a couple years.

we dont necessarily need that(or want it tbh)

 

[Bjerknes]

we dont necessarily need that(or want it tbh)

We don't want a potentially world class player up top who loves the club?

 

[KB824]

We don't want a potentially world class player up top who loves the club?

What player are you referring to?

 

[Bjerknes]

What player are you referring to?

Del Pie.

 

[KB824]

Del Pie.

Oh yes, The Pie.


i thought you were talking about someone else.


He can stay.

 

[GordoDeCentral]

We don't want a potentially world class player up top who loves the club?

we dont want a player whose performance in play and intangibles the team depends on, we want a system a la man u.

 

[Cirillo]

1st point in regards to Buffon. All the more reason to sell him now, while he still has several good years left in him. His value isn't going to be any higher if they wait another year or two.

In regards to your other points as far as filling in the holes, I don't think that Juve had much of a choice but to overpay for players that most teams would have paid 2/3rds of the price for, because of the expectations with this team from its fans, and their own vision of what Juve should be.

That was a dangerous game to play, and the results clearly show, with a few exceptions, that they lost.

Which is all the more reason to blow it all up and start all over again. I'm totally cool with that, not that my opinion matters to anyone in Turin.

Your last point is the most important one. We are fans so we care a lot and give our opinions as if they are gospel. No different to any sporting club in the world. The job of the board is to make the correct decisions at the correct time regardless of fan and media expectation. Our board is like Ranieri, he was too scared to loose so he did nothing (taking the easy option) and our board is too scared to look bad so make poor decisions. They're just weak!

 

[Bjerknes]

we dont want a player whose performance in play and intangibles the team depends on, we want a system a la man u.

That's not the best example because Ronaldo was basically a one-man team when here was there, but I see your point to an extent. We are very dependent on Del Piero but every club is dependent upon their best players.

 

[Ahmed]

not as bad as us though...it's been all Ale for the past what, 7-8 years now?

 

[GordoDeCentral]

That's not the best example because Ronaldo was basically a one-man team when here was there, but I see your point to an extent. We are very dependent on Del Piero but every club is dependent upon their best players.

how many other clubs depended on a player for 18 years? you can argue for and against how many CL would have been won had he been disposed of a la vialli, miccoli, zidane...

 

[GordoDeCentral]

not as bad as us though...it's been all Ale for the past what, 7-8 years now?

17-18 years you mean

 

[Ahmed]

17-18 years you mean

I mean like single-handedly...it wasn't a complete one man show in the beginning

 

[GordoDeCentral]

I mean like single-handedly...it wasn't a complete one man show in the beginning

no but it developed into that very quickly, as soon as 96 i'd say

 

[Ahmed]

no but it developed into that very quickly, as soon as 96 i'd say

yea perhaps...simply unbelievable.

 

[Bjerknes]

how many other clubs depended on a player for 18 years? you can argue for and against how many CL would have been won had he been disposed of a la vialli, miccoli, zidane...

You couldn't argue it at all because you're talking about uncertainty after uncertainty. Even if we sold Del Piero that doesn't mean we'd obtain the proper players.

Miccoli probably should have been given more of a go, but he's not some sort of world class player.

I can understand your gripe but what I can say WITH certainty is that Alex Ferguson would love to have Ronaldo back in his midfield.

 

[Red]

There's not really problem with being very reliant on one player generally.

There is a big problem, though, if that player is in his mid-thirties.

 

[GordoDeCentral]

You couldn't argue it at all because you're talking about uncertainty after uncertainty. Even if we sold Del Piero that doesn't mean we'd obtain the proper players.

Miccoli probably should have been given more of a go, but he's not some sort of world class player.

I can understand your gripe but what I can say WITH certainty is that Alex Ferguson would love to have Ronaldo back in his midfield.

who wouldnt? but i really dont have a gripe notice how i said you can argue for and against, it's a learning process and for me we should turn that page a learn from it, and that dependency is one item to be learnt.