Il Capitano Alessandro Del Piero (58 Viewers)

Bisco

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Nov 21, 2005
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@ bianconero: u cant really ignore or miss del piero's name as one of the greatest players in the world not just with juventus. i agree if it was 'ntfor his injury in 1998 he would've been sth else but he still is a world class player despite his injury.

i personally think del piero is unfortunate with the national side, in 98 he was injured, in 2002 trapatonni made wierd choices and we all know who scored italy's goal against mexico if u forgot then here is a reminder it was del pieros's header, if it was 'nt for him italy would'nt have qualified to the next round. besides at one piont del piero was the best player in the world end of story..
 
Sep 1, 2002
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Bisco said:
@ bianconero: u cant really ignore or miss del piero's name as one of the greatest players in the world not just with juventus. i agree if it was 'ntfor his injury in 1998 he would've been sth else but he still is a world class player despite his injury.

i personally think del piero is unfortunate with the national side, in 98 he was injured, in 2002 trapatonni made wierd choices and we all know who scored italy's goal against mexico if u forgot then here is a reminder it was del pieros's header, if it was 'nt for him italy would'nt have qualified to the next round. besides at one piont del piero was the best player in the world end of story..

Injury can make the difference between Greatness and being very good: in DP's case it did, alas.

I can not lie, as grateful to the many times I saw him play for us in the Alpi: he was never the best. In fact, I am trying to think of a time when he was for Juventus: for a long period.
A legend and wonderful player for us, Yes Yes Yes.
 

sateeh

Day Walker
Jul 28, 2003
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bianconero said:
Injury can make the difference between Greatness and being very good: in DP's case it did, alas.

I can not lie, as grateful to the many times I saw him play for us in the Alpi: he was never the best. In fact, I am trying to think of a time when he was for Juventus: for a long period.
A legend and wonderful player for us, Yes Yes Yes.
greatness is not only by performances on the field(although he has numerous numerous great games).
 

Ahmed

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Sep 3, 2006
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salman said:
in terms of performances for the NT,no del piero is not as good as zidane or even thuram.he has underperformed at national level.his career for juventus and his career for italy are two seperate things.he has been brilliant at juventus,but he has not been all that brilliant for italy.whereas he might be considered indispensable at juventus,and deservedly so,he cannot be considered an indispensable member of the italian team.

btw,shearer and bergkamp were not playing for their respective national sides.their great performances during their 30's were at club level.my argument is that del piero has underperformed at national level,and with age catching up with him,i cant see him holding down a regular place in the azzurri squad.there are younger players around and they need to be developed.del piero has had his time in the blue of italy.now its time for the next generation.
he has not been a regular starter for the azzurri for 6 years...regardless of their performance players like Zizou, Thuram , Makelele even Pauleta always started for their respective NTs...how do u expect any player to perform when he goes into a game knowing he will be a bit-part player? The last coach who really backed Ale at the international level was Cesare Maldini...
 

Ahmed

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Sep 3, 2006
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bianconero said:
Injury can make the difference between Greatness and being very good: in DP's case it did, alas.

I can not lie, as grateful to the many times I saw him play for us in the Alpi: he was never the best. In fact, I am trying to think of a time when he was for Juventus: for a long period.
A legend and wonderful player for us, Yes Yes Yes.
On the contrary, Ale's greatness is that he came BACK from such a devastating injury and still performs at the highest level...
 

Vidocq

Senior Member
Sep 9, 2006
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salman said:
the italian NT manager i believe?
del piero is not 22 anymore where he can be expected to feature in every game.and maybe donadoni feels that the system he plays does not require del piero as much as his ardent fans would like to think.its not as if donadoni spat at del piero in public.he featured against ukraine but didnt play against georgia.its a perfectly normal decision and i dont see why such a big issue needs to be made out of it.

del piero is not the future of italian football anymore.there is young blood available,and that young blood will feature more prominently in the national team than del piero.and just becasue lippi thought of del piero as an important cog in the azzurri machine does not mean that donadoni will think likewise.the system preferred by donadoni might have made him think that del piero was not best suited to it.

Are you sure that this is right place for you considering that avatar of your's and especially with this talk.

Who are you to talk in this way about Del Piero.. Are you sick or something.. It's sure that you aren't normal.. You are some psycho probably..

Beware what are you talking in the future.
 

Ahmed

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Sep 3, 2006
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wfm221 said:
Are you sure that this is right place for you considering that avatar of your's and especially with this talk.

Who are you to talk in this way about Del Piero.. Are you sick or something.. It's sure that you aren't normal.. You are some psycho probably..

Beware what are you talking in the future.
I think every1 is entitled to their opinion but we have to help our misguided brothers :p
 

ZAF3000

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Feb 14, 2005
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I still don't understand the criticism Alex is getting. In my opinion, in the his whole career the only moment where you could've criticise Alex is for missing the chance against France in Euro2000 final. 1 game in his whole career where the team needed him and he couldn't put the ball behind the net. You cannot blame him for losing either, because if it wasn't for sloppy deffending the match could've ended 1-0 infavour of Italy.
He led Juve to winning many titles and just to show how effetive he is in 1998-1999 season when he got injured Juve finished 7th. And in 2003-2004 when he missed most of the season Juve finished 3rd while in the 4 season (2 before and 2 after) Juve won the scudetto. I am not saying that he single handedly won us the trophies but no sane person can deny that he is one of the major if not the most major effective player in all seasons he played for Juve.
You are talking about a player who has scored 199 goals for one of the biggest clubs in history not counting goals that took place in friendly matches.
I seriously do not think that Del Piero would have been different if he hadn't got injured that year. It just simply showed the streangth and manhood inside him. Almost all spectators said he would never return back, surprise surprise, Statistics speak for themselves Del Piero scored more goals and assisted more after injury than before.
It is cruel not say that he is one of the greatest in history after all that he has done.
He is an excellent goal scorer/striker and 199 goals speak for themselves..
He is an terrific assitent striker just ask Pippo and David about it.
He is an outstanding sportsman, just ask anyone who watched Juve play under Capello.
He is THE BEST captain, ask any player who played with him.
Hs is The most loyal, just ask any true juventini. Immediately annoucing that he is staying with the club for better and for worse and not waiting for the verdict to come out.

Personally if I wanted to name a player in history to let all players to look upto; Alessandro Del Piero will be the one. A true example of the perfect football player.
Famous, talented, playing at the greatest club, a captain, loyal, well mannaered, respectable..etc

Forza Alex Del Piero. I am simply proud to have watched you play for Juventus from day one. Thank you for everything.
 

HelterSkelter

Senior Member
Apr 15, 2005
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wfm221 said:
I felt offenced with this guy's talk.. he said too much nonsenses about Alex. That is unforgivable..

Maybe he thinks that "young blood" is cassano.
no the young blood is del piero.afterall he only turned 19 yesterday.cassano on the other is 72 so he cant possibly be the young blood.
 

HelterSkelter

Senior Member
Apr 15, 2005
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who is bashing del piero for his performances for juventus?his juventus career has been phenomenal and he deserves all the accolades that he gets from people as far as his juventus career is concerned.

the argument is that he has not been all the great for italy.saying that he's been great for the azzuri on the basis of his juventus career is stupid.they are two different things and they should be looked upon differently.
 

ZAF3000

Senior Member
Feb 14, 2005
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I don't think his Career at NT was bad. Infact whenever he got the chance he delivered (beside euro2000 final).
Euro qualifier + euro 96 => alex did not score but played well especially in the qualifiers where he played 3-4 goals.
Tournoi de France 1997: Played both matches, against france scored a goal and against brazil scored 2 goals
WC 1998 he might not have scored but he assisted and played really well.
euro 2000 qualifier: Alex was fundemntal for Italy to qualify to euro2000. His famous brace against switzerland is unforgetable.
Euro 2000: He had a good tornement. He missed the chances in the final match but you can't blame him for the loss.
WC 2002 Quali: Del Piero yet again was fundemental for Italy to reach WC2002. He scored at different occassions.
WC2002: Was left on the bench. Entered in the mexico game and scored the qualifier. Played the next game against Korea which Italy was leading and he was putting a great performance. Once he left the pitch italy lost.
Euro 2004 Quali: Scored 3-4 goals in the qualifications. Didn't play alot though.
Euro 2004: Was left in the bench for Totti who should that he is not worthy for starting 11 role. Del Piero took over. Carried Italy on his shoulder till Trap thought it was best to take him off in the sweden game and gave it all away.
WC2006 Quali: Did not play alot thanks to the injury he picked up in early 2004-2005 season. He was decisive in the end of the qualifications.
WC2006: Played really well. Scored a phenomenal goal against Germany and was spot on when asked to shoot from the spot (as usual).

Del Piero might not have played alot for the NT, but that is not because he is not good enough rather than stubborn coaches decisions. Del Piero did shine in almost every game he played with the NT and he is one of the top scoroer in Italy's history.
 

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