If we will qualify for the CL, we will sign Oddo and Jankulovski (6 Viewers)

#10

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Jul 28, 2002
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#81
++ [ originally posted by _Emerson ] ++


Well Juve didnt want to rebuild the defense now, and who has said Mexes and Ferrari was the right men to be the new Ferrara-Montero. Chiellini is a Mexes/Ferrari in a couple of years.
imo mexes ws without doubt a man to replace our old legends, ive followed him for a long time, and i can say comfortably he will be on eof the best this year and the future.
 

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_Emerson

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Aug 13, 2004
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#82
++ [ originally posted by John #10 ] ++
i would argue it a quetion that can only be answered in the long run...on paper, maybe yes, but the way we are playing, i dont think we can say we have yet.

This time last year we were on fire, desmantling everyone (until everyone noticed we cant dfend)....

We still have the shaky defence, with the old codger and the odd useless player.

Our midfield still lack quality width, bar the potential start of oli's career.

Up front, we have got worse, bar the resurgence of trez.
How can you say our midfield lacks quality?, Emerson, Nedved | Blasi, Tacchinardi, Kapo, Olivera, Appiah. That is a awesome midfield with two world class/world star players. There are many other top clubs who doesnt have quality players like that.

And when it comes to the defense, then it will hopefully be more protected by the midfield this year, believe it or not, but the midfield is also very much responsible for the defensive part, and for how many goals who are conceded.
 

_Emerson

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Aug 13, 2004
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#84
++ [ originally posted by Zlatan ] ++
The Midfield is good, I agree, altho I would like a replacement for Camo.
IMO I would like Olivera too play much, and of course Camoranesi when he is inform, because then he is brilliant.
 

#10

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#85
a midfield tend to consist of two central (with attacking and defending quality) and two widemen.

We have not got an established wideman in any form...zambrotta is a great leftback.

Tac, has been a good stalwart, but isnt a mobile midfielder, and he doesnt have the greatest distribution...emo ok, but appaih had a mare of season last year.

Kapo, if he gfets a chance will do great.
Blasi...yet to be totally convinced.

Imo our midfield is totally imbalanced, lackng real width, which imo hampers our attacking greatly, trez only get service from rambo AND possible dp and neddy.
 

_Emerson

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Aug 13, 2004
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#86
++ [ originally posted by John #10 ] ++
a midfield tend to consist of two central (with attacking and defending quality) and two widemen.

We have not got an established wideman in any form...zambrotta is a great leftback.

Tac, has been a good stalwart, but isnt a mobile midfielder, and he doesnt have the greatest distribution...emo ok, but appaih had a mare of season last year.

Kapo, if he gfets a chance will do great.
Blasi...yet to be totally convinced.

Imo our midfield is totally imbalanced, lackng real width, which imo hampers our attacking greatly, trez only get service from rambo AND possible dp and neddy.
I see, but that is things that will be solved by Capello, we dont have to buy or get rid of someone, because they are all quality players. Im sure it will be balanced, after all the season hasnt even started.

Also keep in mind that Juve has Zambrotta to take care of the whole width on the left side. Oddo might arrive to do the same at right side. Plus Kapo and Olivera are wingers, and Camoranesi, luxury problems.
 

#10

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Jul 28, 2002
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#87
imo it too much to expect rambo to look after the whole of the left, unless we play a specialised formation.

He will tire eventually, and what happens when he is injured??

My solution is to let kapo play left wing, cos he has the potential, and or sign jank as he will provide cover both left back and lm.
 

Jun-hide

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Dec 16, 2002
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#88
Missing Ferrari, and Mexes definetely hurts. Mexes is one heck of defender who is comfortable both as man-marker and sweeper. Also his pace would have been a great asset to our team and would have complemented Montero, Thuram very well. Beside, if I am remember correctly, France played Mexes and Thuram central pairing in the last Confederations Cup and they did reasonably well IMO. As for Ferrari, I am a big fan of him and we got to kick ourselves from loosing him from our grasps. He isnt quickest of players and can be exposed to skillful players on one on situations (I remember Inzaghi giving him a lesson in 2-0 win over Inter), but his positional sense, and distribution is just what we needs right now. And he is a real leader at the back.
Anyway does anyone fancy Kahka Kaladze? I know he had a rotten season last year, and mainly operates as a left back but he is one of the best Man to Man marker in the world IMO, relatively young, and wouldnt have to break a bank. Fabricio Coloccini is another option, but there is no way we are going to sign given his eccentricity IMO.
Signing Cannavaro doesnt seem that bad IMO as long as we can get an option on young defenders like Hettinga.
As for our midfield, I think we are competent but certainly not master-class. While we have many ball-winners John correctly lacks natural width, but more importantly IMO, there is degree of inaptitude with technical ability and creativeness. It is more workman like than anything else.
 

Illidian

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Aug 24, 2004
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#90
well we desperately need at least 3 players, in the form of a striker, full back and a centerback. my call would be S.inzaghi for the striker position, what if trezeguet gets injured we can't be fully dependent on Zalayeta, can we?? it's a must.

Tudor is leaving, we need someone to fill his place, someone solid beside thuram to hold our defenses, given that thuram might get injured, then we have no choice but a decent world class center back should be brought in. or else we will be exposed as hell, no upgrade from last season, all others are washed up old players bar Legrottaglie who is strugeling to stand on his foot. Zebina is a good addition but not the best we can get, oh my i can't even imagine our defence without thuram
Iuliano, Montero, Legrottaglie, Zebina and Ferrara who would you trust as our defensive guardian. Hell no One, I'D RATHER PLAY WITH NO DEFENCE AT ALL.

Capello tactics require 2 attacking full backs, so we need at least one, it will be either jankulovski or Oddo, actually i prefer Jankulovski cause he adds variety of options and he is better than Oddo, but we need a RB so why don't we try Zambo as a right back, i am sure he can do it there, but will it affect his form, that's the question


================Buffon===============
=Zambro===Thuram=======Cannav.==Jankul.=
===================================
==Olivera====Blasi=====Emerson===Nedved==
====================================
========Trezeguet=====Del Piero=========

That would be a marvelous excellent side, a side to beat!!
 

#10

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Jul 28, 2002
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#91
++ [ originally posted by Jun-hide ] ++
Missing Ferrari, and Mexes definetely hurts. Mexes is one heck of defender who is comfortable both as man-marker and sweeper. Also his pace would have been a great asset to our team and would have complemented Montero, Thuram very well. Beside, if I am remember correctly, France played Mexes and Thuram central pairing in the last Confederations Cup and they did reasonably well IMO. As for Ferrari, I am a big fan of him and we got to kick ourselves from loosing him from our grasps. He isnt quickest of players and can be exposed to skillful players on one on situations (I remember Inzaghi giving him a lesson in 2-0 win over Inter), but his positional sense, and distribution is just what we needs right now. And he is a real leader at the back.
Anyway does anyone fancy Kahka Kaladze? I know he had a rotten season last year, and mainly operates as a left back but he is one of the best Man to Man marker in the world IMO, relatively young, and wouldnt have to break a bank. Fabricio Coloccini is another option, but there is no way we are going to sign given his eccentricity IMO.
Signing Cannavaro doesnt seem that bad IMO as long as we can get an option on young defenders like Hettinga.
As for our midfield, I think we are competent but certainly not master-class. While we have many ball-winners John correctly lacks natural width, but more importantly IMO, there is degree of inaptitude with technical ability and creativeness. It is more workman like than anything else.
once again jun a post that baffle me in the sheer hugeness of the post, still agree tho :cool:

Our midfield attacking abilities come from neddy, and emo, with blasi, appaih and tac workmen. A shining light for the future is oli and kapo, two player who have the potential to be great attacking midfielder, if they get the chance, they will solve the problem.

Jank on the other hand will be able to bother atack and defend, a vauluble purchace considering he is left footed AND can play left back and left wing....a nice handy player to have, he and rambo could form a topclass partnership.
 

#10

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#92
++ [ originally posted by Illidian ] ++
well we desperately need at least 3 players, in the form of a striker, full back and a centerback. my call would be S.inzaghi for the striker position, what if trezeguet gets injured we can't be fully dependent on Zalayeta, can we?? it's a must.

Tudor is leaving, we need someone to fill his place, someone solid beside thuram to hold our defenses, given that thuram might get injured, then we have no choice but a decent world class center back should be brought in. or else we will be exposed as hell, no upgrade from last season, all others are washed up old players bar Legrottaglie who is strugeling to stand on his foot. Zebina is a good addition but not the best we can get, oh my i can't even imagine our defence without thuram
Iuliano, Montero, Legrottaglie, Zebina and Ferrara who would you trust as our defensive guardian. Hell no One, I'D RATHER PLAY WITH NO DEFENCE AT ALL.

Capello tactics require 2 attacking full backs, so we need at least one, it will be either jankulovski or Oddo, actually i prefer Jankulovski cause he adds variety of options and he is better than Oddo, but we need a RB so why don't we try Zambo as a right back, i am sure he can do it there, but will it affect his form, that's the question


================Buffon===============
=Zambro===Thuram=======Cannav.==Jankul.=
===================================
==Olivera====Blasi=====Emerson===Nedved==
====================================
========Trezeguet=====Del Piero=========

That would be a marvelous excellent side, a side to beat!!
i do like this formation, appears to have great balance all over. Id take that happily.
 

Zlatan

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Jun 9, 2003
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#93
++ [ originally posted by John #10 ] ++
a midfield tend to consist of two central (with attacking and defending quality) and two widemen.

We have not got an established wideman in any form...zambrotta is a great leftback.

Tac, has been a good stalwart, but isnt a mobile midfielder, and he doesnt have the greatest distribution...emo ok, but appaih had a mare of season last year.

Kapo, if he gfets a chance will do great.
Blasi...yet to be totally convinced.

Imo our midfield is totally imbalanced, lackng real width, which imo hampers our attacking greatly, trez only get service from rambo AND possible dp and neddy.
Yeah, but we cant play any other way, except if Neddy plays left wing. As long as Nedved plays as a playmaker we'll be without a left wing, because to have Neddy being a playmaker and havig two wingers you either have to play with just one striker or 3 defenders, considering that we have to have two central midfielders.
 

#10

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Jul 28, 2002
7,330
#94
hmm the three defenders doesnt seem so bad.


-----------------Gigi

----------Lili----Leggo--Zebina---------


Rambo-------------------------------Jank--


---------------Blasi-------Emo--------------


-----------------------Neddy----------------

------------------------------------Dp--------

-----------------trez---------------------

quite nice actually.
 

The Arif

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Jan 31, 2004
12,564
#95
++ [ originally posted by Illidian ] ++
================Buffon===============
=Zambro===Thuram=======Cannav.==Jankul.=
===================================
==Olivera====Blasi=====Emerson===Nedved==
====================================
========Trezeguet=====Del Piero=========

That would be a marvelous excellent side, a side to beat!!

Zambrotta is not a RB.

I'd like this formation :

Buffon

Oddo - Thuram - Cannavaro - Zambrotta

Olivera - Emerson - Nedved - Jankulovski

Del Piero - Trezeguet
 

#10

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Jul 28, 2002
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#96
how different will right back and left back be to rambo???if he can switch from right wing, he can surely switch to right back.
 

Edge

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Jun 14, 2004
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#97
++ [ originally posted by Arif ] ++



Zambrotta is not a RB.

I'd like this formation :

Buffon

Oddo - Thuram - Cannavaro - Zambrotta

Olivera - Emerson - Nedved - Jankulovski

Del Piero - Trezeguet
Its far too attacking, basically we will have 3 men defending and the rest attacking ?
You need to sub Blasi for Oliviera, then we have a better balance.

Buffon

Oddo - Thuram - Cannavaro - Zambrotta

- Emerson - Blasi - Nedved
---------------Miccoli (Oliviera)
------Treze-------------Del Piero
 

juventus2

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Jul 6, 2004
749
#98
I would buy Jankulovski if Zambrotta could move to RB,but i don't think we will get him becaouse he's too expensive so we probably won't buy no one or Oddo.I would also buy Cannavaro becaouse we can get him for less then 5 mil €.That's a bargain.i wouldn't buy a striker.Zalayeta is the perfect sub.He's humble doesn't mind being subed and isn't payed much.And he isn't that bad.

My formation:

1)
------------------------------Buffon
---------------Oddo-Thuram-Cannavaro-Zambrotta
-------------Olivera------Emerson-------Blasi-----Nedved
------------------------Trezeguet---Del Piero

2)
-----------------------------Buffon
--------------Zebina-Thuram-Cannavaro-Zambrotta
------------Olivera------Emerson------Blasi------Nedved
----------------------Trezeguet----Del Piero


I prefer the first formation,becaouse Oddo is more attacking and our team would have great flanks, but if Oddo would be to expensive we can play Zebina.He has his qualitiys youth and he knows Capello
 

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