if the USSR and communism had not collapsed.. (17 Viewers)

[Omair]

That's not true, the EU is kicking American butt in the courts of the World Trade Organisation. The reason: because economics is the only field the EU has actually unified in.

There will be no political or juridical union any time soon, so there will be no European superstate or superpower in the foreseeable future either.

That's exactly why i said "US politics" .. I never mentioned economy ... It's well known that the Euro is kicking the dollar'$ butt ...

 

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[Elvin]

Nakhichevan DOES belong to Armenia, no matter how much they try to change it's original name.

and Scudetto does belong to Inter...

right right

whatever

 

[swag]

Not the EU, maybe China.

Definitely not the EU. You cannot have a superpower made out of that many factions that disagree vehemently, let alone don't even try to speak anything close to the same language.

China is the most logical answer. The question is where the government will fall relative to the economic freedoms in the country.

 

[Slagathor]

Definitely not the EU. You cannot have a superpower made out of that many factions that disagree vehemently, let alone don't even try to speak anything close to the same language.

China is the most logical answer. The question is where the government will fall relative to the economic freedoms in the country.

Language has nothing to do with it, it's not like every Chinese person speaks Mandarin. But you're right, there is too much disagreement in the EU and the enlargement destroyed what little hope there was of further unification in the next two decades, minimum.

EDIT: Unless you meant 'speaking the same language' as in 'seeing things the same way and disagreeing on major issues', cause then you're absolutely right.

 

[Bisco]

Definitely not the EU. You cannot have a superpower made out of that many factions that disagree vehemently, let alone don't even try to speak anything close to the same language.

China is the most logical answer. The question is where the government will fall relative to the economic freedoms in the country.

swag i really did'nt understand what u meant in yr last paragraph the one i highlighted, could u explain that bit?

 

[Vinman]

would the world be a better place to live in?a more equal balance of power would have been there obviously,unlike the unequal balance that exists right now in favour of the USA.the world would have been dividen between communism and capitalism like the post world war 2 - pre 1990 era.had that balance still existed,would we be living in a better world in terms of global security,in terms of global well being etc?

never mind the prisoners...I mean people of the Soviet Union, or its "neighbors", who had absolutely no freedom, and could never leave "the curtain"

tell you what, lets bring back the USSR, and YOU can go over there and be a prisoner !!!

 

[Vinman]

i dont know what to make of the whole global security issue.when the USSR was at its peak,yes there was the cold war with america,but i think the nuclear threat was less 'bigger' than it is now.right now you have one superpower which is light years ahead of the others in terms of technology and artillery.so that kinda means that it isnt answerable to anyone.with the USSR at its peak,there was probably a 'you screw us,we can screw you equally bad' notion that kept both nations away from actually turning the cold war into something much more dangerous.

ive come across lots of people who favour communism,and they raise a pretty valid point about there being a long standing peace during the cold war's time.ever since Russia's demise,that peace has vanished.im not talking about peace in its literal sense.sure,there were issues in the world during the cold war's peak,but the amount of fighting and bloodshed that exists now was not present back then.or was it?

more nonsense from your piehole...

the USA will NOT be the first country to attack with nukes...it will take a nuclear attack on this country for us to respond...just like it would have been during the cold war

we know that if one of these bombs goes off anywhere in the world, that there will be serious consequences for the entire globe...it will affect everyone in some negative way, and we certainly dont want that

I have rarely come across any immigrant to my country, who came from an Eastern European country (or China and Cuba for that matter), who have said that they want their freedom taken away, so that they can go back to that type of living

 

[JCK]

more nonsense from your piehole...

the USA will NOT be the first country to attack with nukes...it will take a nuclear attack on this country for us to respond...just like it would have been during the cold war

we know that if one of these bombs goes off anywhere in the world, that there will be serious consequences for the entire globe...it will affect everyone in some negative way, and we certainly dont want that

I have rarely come across any immigrant to my country, who came from an Eastern European country (or China and Cuba for that matter), who have said that they want their freedom taken away, so that they can go back to that type of living

And this is where the USA will respond by throwing another of its bomb in an attempt to save the damage caused.

 

[Vinman]

And this is where the USA will respond by throwing another of its bomb in an attempt to save the damage caused.

save it Jack...

if we are attacked, then we will respond

any other country(China, Russia, France, Britain...) would as well

 

[JCK]

What a great way to save the day

 

[GordoDeCentral]

more nonsense from your piehole...

the USA will NOT be the first country to attack with nukes...it will take a nuclear attack on this country for us to respond...just like it would have been during the cold war

we know that if one of these bombs goes off anywhere in the world, that there will be serious consequences for the entire globe...it will affect everyone in some negative way, and we certainly dont want that

I have rarely come across any immigrant to my country, who came from an Eastern European country (or China and Cuba for that matter), who have said that they want their freedom taken away, so that they can go back to that type of living

so its ok for japan to nuke us?

 

[JCK]

so its ok for japan to nuke us?

Of course not, if thr US were to save the situation by nuking back, many US soldiers will be affected.

 

[Rami]

more nonsense from your piehole...

the USA will NOT be the first country to attack with nukes...it will take a nuclear attack on this country for us to respond...just like it would have been during the cold war

we know that if one of these bombs goes off anywhere in the world, that there will be serious consequences for the entire globe...it will affect everyone in some negative way, and we certainly dont want that

I have rarely come across any immigrant to my country, who came from an Eastern European country (or China and Cuba for that matter), who have said that they want their freedom taken away, so that they can go back to that type of living

Sorry, but any country or government could claim such a claim....

 

[Vinman]

so its ok for japan to nuke us?

big difference between an atomic bomb 61 years ago, and the weapons we have now

Sorry, but any country or government could claim such a claim....

have we yet ??

I didnt think so...

What a great way to save the day

if you think we should take your "approach", then you are sadly mistaken

 

[Rami]

have we yet ??

I didnt think so...

Have we what? Made the claim? Or used Nukes?

 

[Vinman]

Have we what? Made the claim? Or used Nukes?

the answer to that is neither...

we havent used nukes, nor have we ever threatened to wipe out a country like Iran has, nor have we threatened to use a nuclear bomb to get our enemy to the bargaining table like North Korea has..

but thats ok, right Rami ??

it only counts if the USA does it :rolleyes2

 

[Rami]

the answer to that is neither...

we havent used nukes, nor have we ever threatened to wipe out a country like Iran has, nor have we threatened to use a nuclear bomb to get our enemy to the bargaining table like North Korea has..

but thats ok, right Rami ??

it only counts if the USA does it :rolleyes2

Let me reiterate, vinnie, this started after your claim that the "USA will NOT be the first to use nukes". I said any country could claim such a claim, but that doesn't mean its true. Talk is cheap....And we also know who was the first to ACT on Uranium related bombs...

 

[JCK]

if you think we should take your "approach", then you are sadly mistaken

What "approach" are you talking about?

My approach is no weapons no matter what kind they are should ever exist, if you don't agree with that then I feel sad for you and whoever agrees with you.

 

[Rami]

"You are either with us, or against us"

 

[JCK]

"You are either with us, or against us"

I also feel sorry for such people.