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    ++ [ originally posted by McFarlando ] ++

    Tell him to **** off and find a new job :D?
    Maybe you don't understand how the hierarchy works at the company. He's the manager, and he manages people like me.... :sigh:

    ++ [ originally posted by McFarlando ] ++
    And about the catholic church thing a few pages back, isnt it a tad unrealistic that you talk to some old guy, say a few religious chants a few times and all is forgiven? Atleast i think so. You'd think youd at least have to work it off or something :D
    Same thing I said ;) (except for the working it off part)

    But let's not get into that, i don't wanna offend anyone
     

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    Layce Erayce

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    gray, to be just, one has to apply his principle universally. can the same thing be said about things that you believe or hold to be true?

    why/why not?

    just the fact that it "seems" unrealistic means nothing. dont miracles "seem" unrealistic too? how about a man rising from the dead? unrealistic, no doubt.

    imho things are not always as they seem, and unrealistic things certainly do happen.

    (in a nutshell- you'll have to explain forgiveness by chanting away by some other method haha)

    ps- im not catholic nor am i in support of this particular aspect of their doctrine.
     
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    gray, to be just, one has to apply his principle universally. can the same thing be said about things that you believe or hold to be true?

    why/why not?

    just the fact that it "seems" unrealistic means nothing. dont miracles "seem" unrealistic too? how about a man rising from the dead? unrealistic, no doubt.

    imho things are not always as they seem, and unrealistic things certainly do happen.
    I'm not talking about things that are unrealistic in worldly terms, like miracles and men rising from the dead.

    What I'm saying is that since Catholics believe in the saving power of Christ's blood, I don't really understand why they need a channel to God by which they're forgiven. The curtain in the temple was torn, and every believer can enter God's presence. Isn't "reciting 7 Hail Marys" to be forgiven contrary to Ephesians 2:8-9?

    "For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith, and this not from yourselves. It is the gift of God. Not by works, so that no one can boast"

    (bolds mine)


    Sorry, I know this should be taking place in another thread, but hey, i didn't start it :)
     

    Layce Erayce

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    I dont think catholics believe solely in the bible. Thats why they do so much that just isnt in there.

    Many of their customs have been developed over the centuries and by tradition which imho are mistaken as integral parts of the religion. That is what confession is- something that isnt part of the scripture, but something that was developed over time.

    And thats why I think confessions are untrue. But this isnt my final conclusion of course.
     
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    :confused: I thought u were just defending it 2 posts ago :confused:

    Aaaanyways
     

    Layce Erayce

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    ++ [ originally posted by [LAC] ] ++
    (in a nutshell- you'll have to explain forgiveness by chanting away by some other method haha)

    ps- im not catholic nor am i in support of this particular aspect of their doctrine.
    well?

    my point was not about whether or not they were right it was that when you have a universal principle it must be used universally.
     
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    Huh? What was my universal principle?

    I think i was confused from the start...

    oops
     

    Majed

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    I confess to being a Milan and Lazio fan before i was a juve fan!! :eek:
    I sobbed and threw a fit when Milan got kicked out of the CL in 1996 (the group with Porto, Rosenborg, and Goteborg).

    I confess that before 1993, i used to support ManU and the German national Team.
     

    Lilianna

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    ++ [ originally posted by Majed ] ++
    I confess to being a Milan and Lazio fan before i was a juve fan!! :eek:
    I sobbed and threw a fit when Milan got kicked out of the CL in 1996 (the group with Porto, Rosenborg, and Goteborg).

    I confess that before 1993, i used to support ManU and the German national Team.
    omg..

    that's too much....

    but i also have to confess that before i start supporting juve and generally football,
    i didn't even know how many players were on the pitch...
    i wasn't sure if they were 11 players with or without the goalkeeper.....
     

    Fred

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    ++ [ originally posted by Majed ] ++
    I confess to being a Milan and Lazio fan before i was a juve fan!! :eek:
    I sobbed and threw a fit when Milan got kicked out of the CL in 1996 (the group with Porto, Rosenborg, and Goteborg).

    I confess that before 1993, i used to support ManU and the German national Team.
    i'm kinda the opposite,i was a Juve fan!then the season before the WC,when i didnt have enough coverage for juve anymore,i stopped supporting juve,and started supporting Arsenal:devil:
    i used to support the Azzurri and now i support the Dukes:cool:
    when Juve lost to Real in the Cl final(cant remember which season)i locked myself up in my room for more than 12 hours.
     

    Layce Erayce

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    guys confessions arent all about jerseys....

    btw im in trouble with the law and only god himself can come and save me. nothing too serious but it can quickly turn ugly
     
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    See now we're getting interesting. Enough football confessions guys, let's hear about pillaging and plundering :extatic:
     
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    I confess that I'm eating Kellogg's crunchy nut corn flakes at 2250 because i'm too lazy to make myself anything proper :sigh:
     

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