How does it feel like to be a Non-Italian Juventus fan? (17 Viewers)

Snoop

Sabet is a nasty virgin
Oct 2, 2001
28,186
#1
Maybe some of you noticed lately how I am pissed of the treatment of Juve Officials to Non-Italian fans world wide.

I always supported this club since the beginning, it was a wonderful feeling for me to get official Juve shirt or product the past years. Even if I heard someone I know was traveling to Italy or Europe, most of the times I collected money to ask them buy me Juve shirt for me to wear it at school or put it with other Juve shirts I got, that most of them I didn't wear. Two years ago I insisted to my family yo go to Italy once in a life time, and made hard work to make that possible (maybe the case is different with you guys in Europe, but from here it costs a fortune, I tell you). When I was there, I left the tour from the hotel 5AM to catch a Juventus match and I was sick that day, the train took like 5 hours to reach Torino. When I was there, It was touching I tell you, a dream come true, I was about to cry (sounds gay doesn't it?). anyway I had to catch my family and the tour in other city of Italy, that I have been once my whole life, was a big torture but WORTHS EVERY MOMENT, I would do it thousands times again If I had the chance.

I support the team, I enjoy watching it, I love, live and breathe Juve everyday. When we win, I feel great, when we don't I get pissed but then accept, I don't go like some clowns here who claim they have the right to insult those players and everyone for not performing good enough, since they invest money because of Juve (TV rights, T-shirts, Juve products tickets etc..). no I don't ask that in return, I don't have that right. I am spending money because I love the club, and not to own it or own the right to criticize it!

Not to forget how crazy I spent when I was at Juve store, for buying almost everything, and most of them I didn't use till now (for more than two years passed)..

Anyway, back to the main topic, which is, how does it feel to be like a non-Italian Juventino.. It feels good, but you get very disappointed. Those morons of charge of the club are disrespecting us (Non-Italians) for years and years. Juventus.com is already a joke, the English site is a bad joke (Like Kostarica's the member). ok Forget that, They have Juve Membership project now. Fine great :tup: But look at the English site, another joke.. When you register, the morons even don't bother to write it in proper English. Half of it English and mixed with Italian. Forget that too. They ask you the same sum of money of the amount they get from the Italian members. the problem is, we Non-Italians don't get the same service in return. Players give Introduction or some blog kind materials, but only IN ITALIAN.. ok! another problem, I tried several Credit cards, and most of them rejected, I heard Americans had those problems too at first.

What the fook is this about? Even Pornstars have better Websites and much better service to customers locally or Internationally. But look what our beloved Club, one of the Best clubs in the World have a site and service they offer.

And I also heard there are some clowns in the blog make fun of Non-Italian fans for not knowing Italian (I suppose??) or for not being Italian?? and We have some clowns here too from Italy their Information data filled with all Italian (isn't that cool?).

Thinking of all these, sure I won't change of being a Juve fan, I hopefully support this club forever, but what kind of support I am not sure, for now, screw Juve Membership, I won't give those morons that 36 Euros, Unless they start to bother and move their ass and do something for us Non-Italians to feel us welcomed as it is our home, and not that second or third Class Juve fans.. Till then, Screw you!! you won't get any penny from me..


I would advise you to spend for your own pleasure if you feel the same way, share with us if you have similar feelings/ experience..

or in other words

What you think

Please discuss!
 

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Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
39,341
#2
Whether you like it or not Juventus is and always will be Italian. Either you learn Italian or you just don't care about it.
 

Elvin

Senior Member
Nov 25, 2005
36,923
#3
I'm with Spoopio on this one.

Whatever happened to "oh Juve is not a Location-bound-club like Torino, Milan, Roma or Man Utd is, it's a universal club" bullshit? :groan:
 
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Snoop

Snoop

Sabet is a nasty virgin
Oct 2, 2001
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  • Thread Starter #4
    I have to learn Italian to become a Juve fan? was that a joke?
     
    Apr 15, 2006
    56,640
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    our home site is not NEARLY as good as Barca's of Milan's or even *gulp* Inters! it looks forced to me! it was in a total slop during the 2nd half of last season! it got better nowdays i guess! whereas about Juve Membership, the comments n responses i've seen here have made up my mind! it's high time they do realise that we non-italian fans need some attention!
     

    swag

    L'autista
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    Sep 23, 2003
    84,776
    #7
    I think this is a really good discussion topic. To me, snoop is touching on all the buttons that -- at least I think -- make many a fair-weather footie fan become a huge EPL fanatic (ManU or Arsenal, typically). Because everything is handed to them in the English language, they feel accepted as fans without having to work as hard.

    Not so for English-speakers who are Juve fans. For me, a little of that is part of the attraction. For one, I'm always trying to learn a little more Italian and I truly do love it as a language. So having to watch matches in Italian rather than English isn't off-putting for me, it's actually partly a selling point.

    Now I'm not trying to be all cocky and say, "Anyone who doesn't have to work to learn the language of their club isn't enough of a fan." But this is an Italian club. And you can argue that its roots go well beyond its appeal in Torino, but it is also quintessentially an Italian club. The Derby D'Italia included Juve in part because of their (then) non-demoted status with Inter, but it also represents(ed) something of Juve's status as an icon of Italy and Italian culture -- love them or hate them.

    The language of football goes well beyond the spoken word, though. Which is why we can all watch and appreciate the skills of a Brazilian or Argentinian squad and yet not speak a word of Portuguese or Spanish. But having a common verbal language sure comes in handy when following the matches, discussing with others, etc.

    Juve should do more for their English-language audience, IMO. That's for sure. This supporter club via Juventus Member proves their importance of a global footprint. And we're not asking Juve to be publishing in Finnish, Mandarin, and Sanskrit just yet. But they are making gestures that way, and ultimately the club will need to cater to what brings in the revenue for them.

    And if I really wasn't willing to put up with all the headaches of supporting a club in a foreign country that speaks a foreign language that's nine hours ahead of my local time, I would have supported David Beckham and the L.A. Galaxy -- not Juventus. And you know, to kiss all of your asses, a forum like this wouldn't be nearly as interesting if it consisted only of people from L.A. The fact that I have conversations here online with people from the Middle East, the Far East, Central America, etc., is highly appealing to me...and wouldn't be the case if I had chosen to support a club much closer to home in location and language.
     

    IlDivinCodino

    f**king hot prospect
    Mar 5, 2006
    1,191
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    Well, pretty much I've accepted the fact that Italians will always be hardcore Italians and they don't give half a fuck about us. Somehow I look at these stuffs openly seeing that it's great to be them. I might not be an Italian but if I put myself into the shoes of one, its great. Italians will always be Italians. They are cool, they are cunning, filthy and they are mafias. Somehow this is the root of improvements. I'm not talking in the sense of a Juventus supporter. I'm talking about how united they are and screwing our asses inside out. Their history has proven themselves. Take the States for example. That USA will not be the USA without those mafioso Italians who used to run things around. They care about themselves. And somehow it'll still benefit those around them.
    Enough about Italians, Juventus is just pure stupid for now. Sooner or later they'll realise things that evolve around them aint just about Italy and Europe. Basically I think they are trying. There is the chinese version of the official website now. Thus showing them that we Asians are pros at breeding. No Indian version yet though they are the 2nd highest population in the world. Well, Indians cant afford the Internet yet I guess....... Just joking :D
    I would like to continue my say but I gotta go.........Perhaps if I have the time I'll continue tomorrow since what I said just now didnt make much sense
     

    swag

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    Sep 23, 2003
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    Oh, and this is certainly where snoop and I differ, but if Juve didn't even bother with an English language site and actually allowed Americans to register and pay for an Italian-only version of Juventus Member, I still would have gladly forked over my credit card. But that's just me...
     
    Apr 15, 2006
    56,640
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    Well, pretty much I've accepted the fact that Italians will always be hardcore Italians and they don't give half a fuck about us. Somehow I look at these stuffs openly seeing that it's great to be them. I might not be an Italian but if I put myself into the shoes of one, its great. Italians will always be Italians. They are cool, they are cunning, filthy and they are mafias. Somehow this is the root of improvements. I'm not talking in the sense of a Juventus supporter. I'm talking about how united they are and screwing our asses inside out. Their history has proven themselves. Take the States for example. That USA will not be the USA without those mafioso Italians who used to run things around. They care about themselves. And somehow it'll still benefit those around them.
    Enough about Italians, Juventus is just pure stupid for now. Sooner or later they'll realise things that evolve around them aint just about Italy and Europe. Basically I think they are trying. There is the chinese version of the official website now. Thus showing them that we Asians are pros at breeding. No Indian version yet though they are the 2nd highest population in the world. Well, Indians cant afford the Internet yet I guess....... Just joking :D
    I would like to continue my say but I gotta go.........Perhaps if I have the time I'll continue tomorrow since what I said just now didnt make much sense
    well ill tell ya that Indians CAN afford the internet and they CAN read english so we dont need a Hindi(not sanskrit) version of the site! and TBH, you'd hardly find about 2000 fans of Juve(still a guess... i dont really know) here! almost everyone here's an EPL ass-kisser! :D but that explains why WE dont get much of the privileges! but not why US or other non-european ppl dont either!
     

    IlDivinCodino

    f**king hot prospect
    Mar 5, 2006
    1,191
    #14
    well ill tell ya that Indians CAN afford the internet and they CAN read english so we dont need a Hindi(not sanskrit) version of the site! and TBH, you'd hardly find about 2000 fans of Juve(still a guess... i dont really know) here! almost everyone here's an EPL ass-kisser! :D but that explains why WE dont get much of the privileges! but not why US or other non-european ppl dont either!
    well, I'm chinese and we tend to sqeeze every penny out of people while you guys try to keep every penny to themselves. Basically we are the total opposites.
    Fans of Juve? Neither do we have many......
     
    Aug 30, 2006
    510
    #16
    it is never the same supporting a club when they r not based in ur country but it doesnt mean ur less a juve fan or more of a juve fan than the supporters who live in england. As for the website i hope that one day soon it will make the english on it alot better but we will always support juventus where ever we live
     

    swag

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    Sep 23, 2003
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    well ill tell ya that Indians CAN afford the internet and they CAN read english so we dont need a Hindi(not sanskrit) version of the site! and TBH, you'd hardly find about 2000 fans of Juve(still a guess... i dont really know) here! almost everyone here's an EPL ass-kisser! :D but that explains why WE dont get much of the privileges! but not why US or other non-european ppl dont either!
    Just for the record, my mention of Sanskrit was supposed to be funny. Like citing Old Anglo-Saxon or Old Norse or Latin. The point, like Finnish, meaning that English is hardly a stretch for a place to cover as an additional language.

    But I can wholly see the EPL ass-kissing in India for much of the same language issues as we have in my country.
     
    Apr 19, 2007
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    #18
    It does suck sometimes to be an American Juve fan. Or just English speaking in general. I know how you feel having to work twice as hard to watch games and everything. Last year especially was difficult in serie b. But at the same time its an overwhelming love that some just will never understand. Im taking Italian in college and im also going to go to Italy to study abroad just so I can see some games and be in that culture that fascinates me so much. Also ive been working all summer to go on a trip with two of my friends next year to italy for 3 weeks and then to holland where my Grandparents are from. Anyway about the site it doesnt bother me that much just bc the info on the site is so deleyed its not that the italian stuff is very good either. Anyway Juve is great and not Itlaians only.
     
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    Snoop

    Snoop

    Sabet is a nasty virgin
    Oct 2, 2001
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    Oh, and this is certainly where snoop and I differ, but if Juve didn't even bother with an English language site and actually allowed Americans to register and pay for an Italian-only version of Juventus Member, I still would have gladly forked over my credit card. But that's just me...
    I was like that too man all the time, But I don't want to make those bastards' (Officials) job easier. let them find another way to rob fans, or at least make some effort to earn that.

    but sure the case would be different if we are fucked financially. I would probably do my (Have to do) Job!

    anyway, as a response to your previous post, I also took Italian course as well twice, both of them beginner, once in a private and the other in University. both sucked thou, but I made my own efforts too to learn, and I am not that with the language (not claiming I speak it fluently).

    But that is not the problem at all, I am not refusing to learn Italian for nationalist reasons etc. Just complaining their laziness for not giving what it should to make us satisfied (I am sure you are getting my point).. man it is not a big deal like we are thinking. It will probably cost no more than 2 or 3 thousands of Dollars per month. For a club like Juve? This should have been thought for a long time ago. They are disrespecting their fans, their Majority of the fans. Which is much bigger than they have in Italy!!
     

    Badass J Elkann

    It's time to go!!
    Feb 12, 2006
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    #20
    I have to learn Italian to become a Juve fan? was that a joke?
    well tbh it does kinda help, but i wudnt say its a necessity, nothing makes u more of a juve fan than what your heart screams out at you and the club name that runs through the veins. im more concerned about those who feel its ok to call themselves fans despite the fact they support more than 1 big powerhouse club like barca and juve together, its people like them that bother me the most.
     

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