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[ReBeL]

United thought to have offered to him to Barca and Madrid ahead of arbitration decision


A Premier League arbitration panel meets tomorrow to rule on Heinze's future, but in a new twist to an increasingly malevolent saga, it has emerged that Spain's leading two clubs have been asked if they would like to sign the player for less than the £6.8m United named as his "release price" in a letter to Heinze's agent.

The development may be a further signal of how desperate United are not to sell him to Liverpool. Heinze says the letter gives him permission to join any club willing to pay £6.8m, as Liverpool are. United insist it was always made clear to Heinze that he would not be allowed to move to one of their main Premier League rivals. Lyon, the French club, have expressed a willingness to meet the £6.8m valuation and there is also interest from Juventus in Italy but Anfield is Heinze's favoured destination.

It is thought to be unlikely that Real Madrid or Barcelona will offer a way out of the mess. Despite the opportunity of acquiring a top international at a reduced price, Real have other transfer priorities. The Spanish champions are still pursuing Chelsea's Arjen Robben and Daniel Alves of Sevilla, who would each cost in the region of £20m. Barcelona are believed to be happy with their options at left-back, having recently signed Eric Abidal.

Heinze is in full training with United but Sir Alex Ferguson indicated he will not be considered for selection today. Ferguson and Gill have stated it is still possible for Heinze to remain at Old Trafford and play for United, despite him seeking a move to his club's fiercest rivals. Their anger is directed towards Rodriguez, whose conduct a United source branded "ungrateful".

In legal terms, the dispute is a contract issue between Heinze and United, and Gill has said he has "no issue with what Liverpool have done". The Anfield club are convinced that Heinze will win the fight and Rafael Benitez has kept a place open for the Argentinian in his squad.

Sunday Times

 

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[Red]

From BBC

Heinze loses bid for Anfield move

Heinze joined United from Paris St Germain in 2004
Manchester United's Gabriel Heinze has lost his attempt to force the club to allow him to move to rivals Liverpool.
United disputed claims from Heinze, 29, who said the Red Devils gave him written permission to pursue a transfer to another club for a fee of £6.8m.

But a Premier League arbitration panel concluded that the permission "was unambiguous in that it envisages only an international transfer".

Heinze has the right to appeal against the arbitration panel's decision.

However, with the transfer window due to shut on 31 August, he is short of time if he wants to leave Old Trafford.

United manager Sir Alex Ferguson and chief executive David Gill travelled to Monday's hearing in London to put their case.

The Old Trafford side said they did not want to sell Heinze to a Premier League rival.

They said they made it clear to the defender both orally and in writing that he would not be allowed to join one of their title competitors.

Transfers between the two north-west rivals are rare, and the last player to move from United to Liverpool was Phil Chisnal in 1962.

Any appeal will be heard by the Premier League's appeals committee.

 

[Dostoevsky]

Heinze Loses Arbitration Appeal

It has been confirmed that Manchester United full-back Gabriel Heinze has lost his appeal at the FA and will not join Liverpool this season.

The news marks the end of Heinze’s hopes of joining Liverpool this summer and poses the Argentine several quandaries.

The situation began in July when United told Heinze that he was free to leave the club to anyone matching the £6.8million valuation.

The player had become disillusioned with life at Old Trafford after being usurped as starting left-back by Patrice Evra and was desperate to find first-team football.

Liverpool quickly emerged as the front-runners in the race to sign Heinze who had also attracted muted interest from Juventus, however United boss Alex Ferguson insisted that Heinze would not join Liverpool or any of the club’s close rivals.

The turnaround infuriated Heinze who had learnt that Liverpool had met the valuation, quickly prompting the 29-year-old to seek legal action to force through a move to Anfield.

Having liaised with Liverpool lawyers, it was decided that the case be taken to the Football Association who would govern whether United were in their rights to refuse a transfer.

The centre-point of the disagreements was a letter from United received by Heinze on June 13. The Argentinean had submitted the letter as evidence to the panel as he understood that it stated that he could be transferred.

However the panel have ruled that the letter was only an agreement to agree and did not constitute a legally binding document.

A Premier League statement read: “The Premier League Board appointed panel having heard submissions of evidence from both parties has ruled to dismiss Gabriel Heinze’s case.

“The letter was unambiguous as it only envisages only an 'international transfer’. It did not create an obligation or binding agreement for the club to transfer the player to any particular club.

“The letter is evidence of an intention to negotiate both between the parties and with potential buying clubs and not evidence of any intention to create legal intentions.”

So what next for Heinze? Well, the player will be given the right to appeal against the decision but this could take more than the ten days remaining in the transfer window.

Another option would be to pursue a move to Lyon who have already stated their interest in the left-back. Alternatively Heinze could await the decision of the likes of Real Madrid and Barcelona who have been offered the player at a cut price.

The least likely of the options is for Heinze to stay at United and fight for his place. Ferguson has already conceded that fan contempt will not alter his selection policy, but whether fans will ever forgive the player for anchoring after a move to rivals Liverpool is unlikely.

goal.com

 

[francesco]

Following the collapse of Gabriel Heinze's move to Liverpool, Manchester United have put the player back on the market, informing all major clubs outside UK that he will be available for 10 million euros.

The Premier League Tribunal brought to an end yesterday afternoon, the long-running saga involving Manchester United, Liverpool and Gabriel Heinze, ruling that the Red Devils' letter allowing him to leave did not supercede his contract, and was not binding.

That has put paid to Liverpool's hopes of landing him, but the bitterness between Heinze and the Old Trafford bosses has now made his putting on a United shirt ever again almost impossible.

The latest on the matter is that the Argentine is now being touted around Europe at £6.8million (10 million euros).

The likes of Milan, Juventus, Barcelona, Real Madrid, Bayern Munich and Lyon have all been contacted and made aware of the situation, according to reports from England.

The only club to have shown a concrete interest thus far are Lyon, who are looking for a replacement for the injured Cris.

However, it is understood that the French champions are unwilling to meet the price tag slapped on by United. It is also unclear at the moment whether Heinze himself wants a return to France, which would be a step down.

The Red Devils are hoping that either AC Milan or Juventus show concrete interest.

goal.com

 

[Ahmed]

i think we should go for him now

 

[chester]

I don't know if he is the "leader" in defence that we need. He surely would be a good addition, but I don't know if he will solve the defence problems we have.

 

[Ahmed]

yea true but defence is a team objective no one player not even Cannavaro can change things overnight...but Heinze is def. amongst the best defenders in world football and adding him to the squad should be a no-brainer...at an acceptable price of course

 

[baggio]

If nobody else buys him, by the time we hit the last week on the mercato, maybe we should try pulling a Moggi with a reduced offer to Man Utd. Heinze is definitely the kind of quality we could work with this season. For me, we'd definitely be scudetto material with Cannavaro, Heinze, G.Silva and Huntelaar in the ranks. Yes, too much to ask for at this point.

 

[Ahmed]

If nobody else buys him, by the time we hit the last week on the mercato, maybe we should try pulling a Moggi with a reduced offer to Man Utd. Heinze is definitely the kind of quality we could work with this season. For me, we'd definitely be scudetto material with Cannavaro, Heinze, G.Silva and Huntelaar in the ranks. Yes, too much to ask for at this point.

we get those 4 then you can stitch the Scudetto badge on to our new jerseys

 

[murzik]

Real Madrid Confirm Heinze Signing

According to the Argentine press Real Madrid have confirmed the signing of left back Gabriel Heinze from Manchester United for 12 million euros.



zoom - galleria Although it was speculated that the talented Argentine international would either join Liverpool or Juventus, he will instead reinforce Real Madrid for the new Spanish season.

The Spanish champions had been searching for an experienced left back, after youngsters Marcelo and Miguel Torres both didn’t impress in a preseason where their defense was exposed time and time again.

Madrid were also woeful in defense in their 5-3 defeat against Sevilla in the Spanish Super Cup last Sunday.

Heinze, who is 29 years of age, has already played in Spain, after representing Real Valladolid in the 1997-1998 season and then again in the 1999-2001 season.

Since then he has played for Sporting Lisbon, Paris Saint Germain, and his latest club Manchester United.

The highly rated defender will be the fourth Argentine in Madrid’s ranks, after Javier Saviola, Fernando Gago, and Gonzalo Higuain.

According to reports Bernd Schuster has now set his sights on another Argentine, Real Zaragoza striker Diego Milito.

Gregory Sica

 

[Ahmed]

that can't be true...Man U is willing to sell for 10 million and Real paid 12?

 

[murzik]

source:goal.com

 

[Ahmed]

yea i know...but sounds fishy

 

[narchi]

Look if they prepare 10 mio, then Man U., will probably still wait, if there is another team, who will give them more. For 12 he was sold immediately.

You probably still remember what happened with Milito?

 

[Ahmed]

who?

 

[murzik]

Heinze to Madrid--->Canna to Juve? )

 

[Ahmed]

Heinze to Madrid--->Canna to Juve? )

YES if u put it that way

 

[francesco]

Heinze to Madrid--->Canna to Juve? )

i wish! although if this transfer is true, Heinze was signed to fill in at left back because Marcelo isnt too convincing

 

[murzik]

Metzelder? He's a left back....

 

[francesco]

Metzelder? He's a left back....

he's a natural CB