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[Nzoric]

Speaking of muscle memory, my rope skipping is really starting to pick up. I did 10 minutes in a row yesterday - high intensity where i switch feet every three jumps, then i alternate feet for twenty jumps, ten jumps with both feet followed by a double jump and then repeat. Starting to get really fun now

 

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[Oggy]

Muscle memory is good, but 3 kg a week is mostly water. But youll get there again if you keep it up

And I'm telling you again that I hardly have any water, hell I even shred some fat from my belly, and in last three weeks I've been training really hard, but I also trained moderately before, just in last three weeks I really increased the workload load and protein intake.

Speaking of muscle memory, my rope skipping is really starting to pick up. I did 10 minutes in a row yesterday - high intensity where i switch feet every three jumps, then i alternate feet for twenty jumps, ten jumps with both feet followed by a double jump and then repeat. Starting to get really fun now

I have no idea what you wrote, but hey it sounds fun indeed

 

[Zacheryah]

Muscle memory, actually is mostly water. Its not an actual integer that says you had x grams of fibre before so quickly rebuild it.


When you train, you increase the nuclei in the muscle. It simply means you concentrate more cells. Resistance offers the most dense build, where as hypertrophy offers more volume. All these cells are filled with concentrated substance, and via the osmotic principle, with water.
When you stop training, you stop the flow of nutrients going into the musclefibre, the cells will significantly lower in nutrientconcentration, osmotic pressure will drop and you cant retain as much water in the cells.
"muscle memory" actually refers to these cells. When you start training, you create muscle pump (time bloodvessles open), you get nutrients back into the cells, and more water can retain itself into the cells.


So what you've basically done, is filled out your muscle fibers again. Wich happens before any form of increased lean mass takes place


Let me give you an example of just how much effect this gives

I've lost 12kg in about 10 days when very high antibiotic usage crashed my liver enzymes and as a consequence my water retention in the muscle, and i was on 500-800kcal due to stomache issues.
I've lost 3kg of fatfree mass it appeared afterwards, 9kg was simply water. And i continiously train. The reason i lost these 9 kg of water was because i was barely producing any musce glycogene, wich is about the most important nutrient in the cell considering osmotic pressure.
When my liverenzymes restored themselves to normal activity, within a month i've got the missing 9 kg back.



Same story can be easely seen when using water retaining steroids, and non water retaining extremely potent Trenbolone.

High short estered water retaining steroids, give a very fast increase in mass, wich is mostly down to the increased water that can be stored. You'll bloit quickly. After a cycle, you'll also lost quite a bit.
Trenbolone doesnt retain water. It has a halflife of 8 days(enathate)/3days(acetate). You will not feel any strength or mass increase from Tren whatsoever, before the first 2(acetate)/3(enathate) weeks. This is actual lean mass gain.

And 500/500 anabolic/androgenic ratio Trenbolone, is MUCH more potent then that tiny bit of unestered testosterone we produce naturally.



But keep up the good work, you'll notice a drop in mass gain. What you gain after that, is actual muscle.

 

[Oggy]

Muscle memory, actually is mostly water. Its not an actual integer that says you had x grams of fibre before so quickly rebuild it.


When you train, you increase the nuclei in the muscle. It simply means you concentrate more cells. Resistance offers the most dense build, where as hypertrophy offers more volume. All these cells are filled with concentrated substance, and via the osmotic principle, with water.
When you stop training, you stop the flow of nutrients going into the musclefibre, the cells will significantly lower in nutrientconcentration, osmotic pressure will drop and you cant retain as much water in the cells.
"muscle memory" actually refers to these cells. When you start training, you create muscle pump (time bloodvessles open), you get nutrients back into the cells, and more water can retain itself into the cells.


So what you've basically done, is filled out your muscle fibers again. Wich happens before any form of increased lean mass takes place


Let me give you an example of just how much effect this gives

I've lost 12kg in about 10 days when very high antibiotic usage crashed my liver enzymes and as a consequence my water retention in the muscle, and i was on 500-800kcal due to stomache issues.
I've lost 3kg of fatfree mass it appeared afterwards, 9kg was simply water. And i continiously train. The reason i lost these 9 kg of water was because i was barely producing any musce glycogene, wich is about the most important nutrient in the cell considering osmotic pressure.
When my liverenzymes restored themselves to normal activity, within a month i've got the missing 9 kg back.



Same story can be easely seen when using water retaining steroids, and non water retaining extremely potent Trenbolone.

High short estered water retaining steroids, give a very fast increase in mass, wich is mostly down to the increased water that can be stored. You'll bloit quickly. After a cycle, you'll also lost quite a bit.
Trenbolone doesnt retain water. It has a halflife of 8 days(enathate)/3days(acetate). You will not feel any strength or mass increase from Tren whatsoever, before the first 2(acetate)/3(enathate) weeks. This is actual lean mass gain.

And 500/500 anabolic/androgenic ratio Trenbolone, is MUCH more potent then that tiny bit of unestered testosterone we produce naturally.



But keep up the good work, you'll notice a drop in mass gain. What you gain after that, is actual muscle.

Thanks for the info, some of it I knew, some of it I didn't.
What I found out is when I increase my protein shakes to 3-4 times per day, muscles feel much denser, they gain really nice volume. Also when it comes to my weight gain, I don't really pay attention to scale, but I noticed that most of my shirts are really tight on me, and I don't want to talk about jeans, there are only two pairs I can
wear at he moment. But about that weigh gain, my normal weight is around 85-86 kg's, but few months ago I dropped weight to around 83 kg's mostly thanks to poor diet (I ate really small portions of food), and no exercise at all. Now I weight around 87-88 kg's so basically I gained 1-2 kg's of extra weight, and even that is questionable since I had similar weight at end of November 2014 when I basically stopped with training.

But fuck all of that, do you recommend Trenbolone? I have easy access to it

 

[Zacheryah]

Thanks for the info, some of it I knew, some of it I didn't.
What I found out is when I increase my protein shakes to 3-4 times per day, muscles feel much denser, they gain really nice volume. Also when it comes to my weight gain, I don't really pay attention to scale, but I noticed that most of my shirts are really tight on me, and I don't want to talk about jeans, there are only two pairs I can
wear at he moment. But about that weigh gain, my normal weight is around 85-86 kg's, but few months ago I dropped weight to around 83 kg's mostly thanks to poor diet (I ate really small portions of food), and no exercise at all. Now I weight around 87-88 kg's so basically I gained 1-2 kg's of extra weight, and even that is questionable since I had similar weight at end of November 2014 when I basically stopped with training.

But fuck all of that, do you recommend Trenbolone? I have easy access to it

Using trenbolone also requires acces to :

triiodothyroine (T3) 25mcg/200mg tren/week to combat decreased t4-t3 conversion rate
N-acetyl cysteine high dosage daily to protect liver fattening
250(or more)mg testosterone enathate/week to compensate HPTA axis shutdown
Cabergoline 20mg+/day (dopamine antagonist) to prevent highly elevated prolactine values (increased fat retention and anorgasmia)
20-40mg nolvadex/day for 2 weeks, starting 1 week after final injection (starting up HPTA axis, estrogen removal, anti gyno)
**when susceptible to gyno, 10/day for entire injection cycle, and 20-40mg like above
Ability to completely avoid any foods and beverages that remotely tax liver function (mostly alcohol)
Ability to eat 2.0-2.5g protein/kg bodyweight for entire cycle and especially the 2 months afterwards
Limited intake of fats, exact the recommanded values considering bodyweight.
Knowledge of mental tolerance to high androgenic ratio steroids
No pre-existing liver/kidney/cardiovascular issues


I dont mind steroid usage for people who train properly and ARE NOT competing in a doping tested type of competition. But you gotto check all the boxes and know what you are doing

 

[Oggy]

Using trenbolone also requires acces to :

triiodothyroine (T3) 25mcg/200mg tren/week to combat decreased t4-t3 conversion rate
N-acetyl cysteine high dosage daily to protect liver fattening
250(or more)mg testosterone enathate/week to compensate HPTA axis shutdown
Cabergoline 20mg+/day (dopamine antagonist) to prevent highly elevated prolactine values (increased fat retention and anorgasmia)
20-40mg nolvadex/day for 2 weeks, starting 1 week after final injection (starting up HPTA axis, estrogen removal, anti gyno)
**when susceptible to gyno, 10/day for entire injection cycle, and 20-40mg like above
Ability to completely avoid any foods and beverages that remotely tax liver function (mostly alcohol)
Ability to eat 2.0-2.5g protein/kg bodyweight for entire cycle and especially the 2 months afterwards
Limited intake of fats, exact the recommanded values considering bodyweight.
Knowledge of mental tolerance to high androgenic ratio steroids
No pre-existing liver/kidney/cardiovascular issues


I dont mind steroid usage for people who train properly and ARE NOT competing in a doping tested type of competition. But you gotto check all the boxes and know what you are doing

I'm not really into steroid use, I have some limited knowledge about them, and like you, I don't have anything against people that are using them and know what they are doing. Actually I have few friends that are using steroids, but they also compete at BB. TBH I would like to try it one day, just out of curiosity and nothing else.

 

[IliveForJuve]

I wish I had the cash for a HGH cycle.

 

[Zacheryah]

I'm not really into steroid use, I have some limited knowledge about them, and like you, I don't have anything against people that are using them and know what they are doing. Actually I have few friends that are using steroids, but they also compete at BB. TBH I would like to try it one day, just out of curiosity and nothing else.

Dont touch Trenbolone in that case

Do something like Testosterone enathate and boldenone. Under 500mg/week. easy on.

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I wish I had the cash for a HGH cycle.

HGH is a huge risk as it will speed up the development from stage 2 and 3 to stage 4 cancer, wich increases the chance it can eventually get there before the body destroys it, and it will speed up the growth and metastasis of actual (stage 4) cancer. Most importantly, testicular cancer.

I recommand against HGH. Even Insuline abuse seems less riskfull when done right

 

[IliveForJuve]

Dont touch Trenbolone in that case

Do something like Testosterone enathate and boldenone. Under 500mg/week. easy on.

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HGH is a huge risk as it will speed up the development from stage 2 and 3 to stage 4 cancer, wich increases the chance it can eventually get there before the body destroys it, and it will speed up the growth and metastasis of actual (stage 4) cancer. Most importantly, testicular cancer.

I recommand against HGH. Even Insuline abuse seems less riskfull when done right

I doubt I have cancer anyway. Still, I wouldn't take HGH because it may make my head bigger.

I knew a guy at my gym that his forehead became jutted out and his jaw kinda redeeded in his head.....he looked awful and gross.

 

[Zacheryah]

Its not about the cancer you know, its about the potential cancer inside you dont know


All the time, your body sees malingant grows from stage 1 to 3. this isnt cancer yet, but are potential tumors.


HGH increases the chance one gets to stage 4(actual cancer), and shortens the duration they need to spread.

 

[Nzoric]

People who use steroids should be professional competitors. If you use steroids as a hobby then you can go fucked for all I care.

 

[Zacheryah]

Professional or at least people with an actual long term plan that need the steroids to complete their goals, whilst beeing medically monitored

 

[Lion]

someone is salty today.

 

[IliveForJuve]

Its not about the cancer you know, its about the potential cancer inside you dont know


All the time, your body sees malingant grows from stage 1 to 3. this isnt cancer yet, but are potential tumors.


HGH increases the chance one gets to stage 4(actual cancer), and shortens the duration they need to spread.

Gotcha, doc

 

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[Ford Prefect]

So when I curl, I take the Dumbbells and stand in the rack? That's where I've been going wrong.

 

[AFL_ITALIA]

That's how you make those real gains.

 

[AFL_ITALIA]

Looks fun at least

https://www.facebook.com/OfficialJacoDeBruyn/videos/818023768287675/

 

[Oggy]

 

[Gerd]

I didn't see the interview , did he flat out say he has never took steroids or he simply avoided the question ? Generally they always avoid the question , i remember a review of coleman and when he had to answer he went on saying how you could get great results even without taking steroids and how he performed great when he was powerlifting and he was tested for drugs . He didn't flat out deny it , but simply continued to avoid it . That is generally from the supplement contracts they have , they are obliged to not come out and say they take steroids most of the time to avoid bad publicity same thing with the hundreds of natural asthetic fitness bodybuilders (who flat out deny everytime they took steroids seeing as their main selling point is being natural) . They would never come out and say that their results are partially based on steroid usage because nobody would buy supplements so they lie .