Gym and fitness (36 Viewers)

[Zacheryah]

Oh guys, dont make a fuzz out off it, its logical they do that.


These guys are marketted by big name companies. Who want to let the customer believe, that whey and supplementation actually actively builds muscle, and give advantages over non users.
So offcourse they'll say they dont take steroids. Offcourse they say "olympia class bodybuilders are clean" and "offcourse powerlifting is dopingtested".

actually, they'll lose their contracts if they plainly admid it. Jay Cutler once nearly had that when he was heard on camera saying "steroids are an integral part of bodybuilding".


Dont kidd yourself.

- Modern Olympia bodybuilders would allready look huge and ripped.
- They take insuline, HGH and steroids, to enable a new level of gains. But eating and sleeping and training right is the only way to achieve their new potential.
- Coleman was a powerlifter and has never competed in a dopingtested federation. In america, despite the growth of IPF, nontested powerlifting remains largely the standard.

- growth is training, sleeping, 2g protein/kg bodyweight+, 80%carb=complex carb, and low enough fat
- Whey shakes are a handy way to get to your daily protein needs. its easyer then eating 2+kg of meat. It has no particular advantages over meat. (one can prepare chickenbreast in ways it digests as fast as whey isolate).
- supplementation that is not a vitamine, increases your recovery and training intensity by 0.05%. Proper carb loading and sleep is about 10 000x as effective.
- cafeine to get a rush works better then any legal preworkout

- 90% of "natural bodybuilders" are doping bodybuilders on TRT who cheat trough epitestosterone, and dont have then genetics to becomes as huge as others, so look more "natural"
- There are actual natural bodybuilders. They are the ones with the average deltoids, but can inhale FAR deeper.

 

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[Quetzalcoatl]

You might find this hard to believe, but I have never taken steroids. And no, I'm not obliged to deny it

 

[Zacheryah]

No one should ever be obliged to take them in the first place


Tbh i'd like more credible rolemodels for drugfree fitness and bodybuilding. Powerlifting (IPF) and olympic lifting have strong doping checks, you can be relatively certain the long serving athletes are clean.


Bodybuilding and fitness ? Name me one clear drugfree rolemodel. There isnt one. And thats wrong. People need to be able to look up to them, and leave steroids for those who truely want a physique beyond their natural limits

 

[.zero]

You might find this hard to believe, but I have never taken steroids. And no, I'm not obliged to deny it

F off you immo hypocrite

 

[Ford Prefect]

No one should ever be obliged to take them in the first place


Tbh i'd like more credible rolemodels for drugfree fitness and bodybuilding. Powerlifting (IPF) and olympic lifting have strong doping checks, you can be relatively certain the long serving athletes are clean.


Bodybuilding and fitness ? Name me one clear drugfree rolemodel. There isnt one. And thats wrong. People need to be able to look up to them, and leave steroids for those who truely want a physique beyond their natural limits

They can look up to me!

 

[Post Ironic]

I heard from credible source (a redhead I was bangin' last night) that Zach takes steroids...

 

[ALC]

I personally don't have anything against steroids. Not for me, but if people want to take them, they should be able to.

 

[Ford Prefect]

I personally don't have anything against steroids. Not for me, but if people want to take them, they should be able to.

There's some guys at my gym that use them, they look pretty grim. I'd rather build natural muscle than look like I was constructed by a balloon modeller, pretty sure most of the population would agree.

 

[ALC]

There's some guys at my gym that use them, they look pretty grim. I'd rather build natural muscle than look like I was constructed by a balloon modeller, pretty sure most of the population would agree.

I'm not a big fan of the bodybuilder look either but taking them doesn't mean you'll end up looking like that. See Hugh Jackman for example. But yeah, I wouldn't take them simply because there's too much maintenance involved if you don't want the side effects that come with.

 

[Ford Prefect]

I've had a weird one. I always feel shit after eating food, like there's a balloon in my stomach. I read up on the nhs website and it suggested cutting various veg, wheat, lactose, to see if it stops and then reintroduce one by one to see when it starts, apparently wheat fucks up my digestion. I've been eating less wheat wheat for a week and I feel fine instead of awful and my core has changed shape. Fucking weird, I've eaten wheat all my life.

 

[Oggy]

Speaking of steroids, I have nothing against those who use them, but it makes me angry to see people using them while they never properly trained in their life. My co-worker is using them now, and he is typical beach body guy, with big arms, pecs and legs of 12 year old kid, he almost never trained legs, he never squats, deadlift, hell even his bench press PR is around 100-110 kg's. I don't know why but it really pisses mi off seeing him and guys like him only now when on roids trying to work legs.

This morning I even found his testosterone and injections at the desk

 

[Nzoric]

A cigarette after an 8km run and full upper body workout. Goddamnit it feels like heaven.

 

[Zacheryah]

Speaking of steroids, I have nothing against those who use them, but it makes me angry to see people using them while they never properly trained in their life. My co-worker is using them now, and he is typical beach body guy, with big arms, pecs and legs of 12 year old kid, he almost never trained legs, he never squats, deadlift, hell even his bench press PR is around 100-110 kg's. I don't know why but it really pisses mi off seeing him and guys like him only now when on roids trying to work legs.

This morning I even found his testosterone and injections at the desk

Ask him to take off his shirt approx 4 weeks after he stops taking testosterone. Then laugh like you never laughed before.
Dont forget to continiously find reasons to complain about the dangers and disgust of bad skin quality


Lastly, 110bench (and i doubt its a pauzed one) is a very VERY weak bench pr on steroids.

Try to do a hugely cheated barbell curl with it. Or just rep his weight several times. Or ask him to bench approx 4 weeks after he's off test

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If you want, i can find you several girls weighing lower then 60kg, doping tested, that have a higher bench


When he's crying, dont stop

 

[Oggy]

Ask him to take off his shirt approx 4 weeks after he stops taking testosterone. Then laugh like you never laughed before.
Dont forget to continiously find reasons to complain about the dangers and disgust of bad skin quality


Lastly, 110bench (and i doubt its a pauzed one) is a very VERY weak bench pr on steroids.

Try to do a hugely cheated barbell curl with it. Or just rep his weight several times. Or ask him to bench approx 4 weeks after he's off test

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If you want, i can find you several girls weighing lower then 60kg, doping tested, that have a higher bench


When he's crying, dont stop

Ok, he is not that much annoying However he switched his place with another guy who will start working with me from today, and he is competing in BB and is pretty big, as thing are standing right now I have feeling I'm gonna end up on roids too

 

[Ford Prefect]

This is too true

 

[Lion]

Ask him to take off his shirt approx 4 weeks after he stops taking testosterone. Then laugh like you never laughed before.
Dont forget to continiously find reasons to complain about the dangers and disgust of bad skin quality


Lastly, 110bench (and i doubt its a pauzed one) is a very VERY weak bench pr on steroids.

Try to do a hugely cheated barbell curl with it. Or just rep his weight several times. Or ask him to bench approx 4 weeks after he's off test

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If you want, i can find you several girls weighing lower then 60kg, doping tested, that have a higher bench


When he's crying, dont stop

stop being such a jelous bitch and realize everyone had different goals. maybe he doesn't want to be a power lifter so why does it matter that his bench is weak

 

[Zacheryah]

stop being such a jelous bitch and realize everyone had different goals. maybe he doesn't want to be a power lifter so why does it matter that his bench is weak

I understand your wrong way of thinking, because i havent told you a critical fact yet, wich i'll do now, just for ma favorite feline.


Powerlifting specialises in Squat, pauzed benchpress and Deadlift.

Squat and especially deadlift are exercises that cant go up to quickly. One is dependent on many muscles and tendons , whilst the other is the same story and hugely CNS dependant.
You cant shortcut these with taking steroids. It will speed up your progress but it wont suddenly blast it.


Benchpress is a different story. Because benchpress is alot down to chest, shoulder and tricep muscle, and not so much tendon and nothing CNS, asides from form and mechanics, unlike the other two you can truely explode a benchpress with taking steroids.

Many heavy weight bodybuilders have an off season benchpress of 200-220kg. Powerlifters in the same weight category that arent doping tested are ahead, but not that very much.



So thats why, you can truely embarass bad steroid users with benchpress. They are at a huge advantage, but if you outperform them, you are humiliating them.

 

[Lion]

that is complete bs.

most lifters improve their deads and squats at a faster pace then their bench. steriods or not. lol at your misinformation

 

[Zacheryah]

that is complete bs.

most lifters improve their deads and squats at a faster pace then their bench. steriods or not. lol at your misinformation

Now you are contradicting.

First you talk about "different goals", then you talk about "lifters".


Lifters : olympic/powerlifters(we'll talk power since olympic lifters dont have bench as a prime) : depends on bodystrength at start of training, and then how you train. You are correct that Squat and especially deadlift tend to race up faster, but also take in acound people with big torso and small arms, that can get to a 200kg benchpress, but have a hard time getting their deadlift up cause of phyique.

"everyone with different goals" : aka people who dont put the hammer down on deadlifts(if they do them), and squat poorly once a week. Usually take bench most serious. Will have a bigger bench then squat and deadlift, and will see the bench progress faster




In my gym 85% can bench more then they can deadlift and squat. Then there are the best 4 powerlifters wich nearly deadlift double their bench, and have a squat somewhere in between.

My current deadlift is 1.93x my bench for example

 

[Dostoevsky]

Sun is showing up, hot weather coming. It's time to hit them bars hard and get in form. I feel like a grandpa right now.