Gonzalo Higuaín (68 Viewers)

How many Goals will Pipita score this season in all comp?

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zizinho

Senior Member
Apr 14, 2013
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Only replied to what you stated about Higgy and heading. Fuck the earlier miss my friend, no relevance to it. Juve won 3-2 and Higgy scored the winning goal. All that matters on the scoresheet.

That being said of course I believe Higgy had a subpar year as a whole. I can't argue about that and if someone better can be had, than fine with me. As good as the results showed this year with plenty of goals, never did seem to be any kind of rhythm to Juve's offensive flow.
fair enough
 

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GordoDeCentral

Diez
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Apr 14, 2005
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Yes, for sure that was a great goal. Probably his best of the season. Very few other strikers would score that. That's why we paid 94M. Then he missed a crucial penalty that most other strikers would score. Should we ignore that in objective analysis?

The truth is that goal against Tottenham used to be more frequent with Napoli and since then those occurrences have been fewer and fewer. He has to produce those goals regularly in order for him to be better than other strikers. That should be logical.

You see some of the goals Balotelli has scored lately? Why wouldn't I just sign him for free instead of Higuain for 94M. For sure Balotelli can score tap-ins. For sure he can score PKs. What is the difference that is supposed to separate them? Higuain has missed too many sitters this year to claim he is so far ahead of other strikers.
Now balo would have done just as well :lol: sure thing buddy
 

Bianconero81

Ageing Veteran
Jan 26, 2009
40,177
Facts:

We won Serie A without him 5 consecutive times.
We still haven't won the CL with him in our ranks.
He's slow and loses the ball often.
We paid 90 million for him.
His performances this season have't been as impressive, and he's been more inconsistent.
 

MikeM

Footballing Hipster celebrating 4th place with Tuz
Sep 21, 2008
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Now balo would have done just as well :lol: sure thing buddy
Done just as well at what? Balotelli would score less goals in our team than Higuain. How many less is the question.

My original point was to say that you can't just subtract points from our end of year total because Higuain scored in certain situations. It's very possible another striker would have scored as well. So you would be on the same points. It's possible a striker would score even more! It's possible another striker would score 2 or 3 goals less.

A goal against Napoli doesn't distract from a mediocre season. And I was always the first to defend Higuain last year. But his decline is obvious.
 

GordoDeCentral

Diez
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Apr 14, 2005
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Done just as well at what? Balotelli would score less goals in our team than Higuain. How many less is the question.

My original point was to say that you can't just subtract points from our end of year total because Higuain scored in certain situations. It's very possible another striker would have scored as well. So you would be on the same points. It's possible a striker would score even more! It's possible another striker would score 2 or 3 goals less.

A goal against Napoli doesn't distract from a mediocre season. And I was always the first to defend Higuain last year. But his decline is obvious.
That was zizinhos argument, that certain goals matter more than the whole body of work. Also a mediocre season is not reason enough to sell a top CF, and it's not like we can recoup our investment or get anyone of comparable quality.
 

Fr3sh

Senior Member
Jul 12, 2011
37,264
Yes, for sure that was a great goal. Probably his best of the season. Very few other strikers would score that. That's why we paid 94M. Then he missed a crucial penalty that most other strikers would score. Should we ignore that in objective analysis?

The truth is that goal against Tottenham used to be more frequent with Napoli and since then those occurrences have been fewer and fewer. He has to produce those goals regularly in order for him to be better than other strikers. That should be logical.

You see some of the goals Balotelli has scored lately? Why wouldn't I just sign him for free instead of Higuain for 94M. For sure Balotelli can score tap-ins. For sure he can score PKs. What is the difference that is supposed to separate them? Higuain has missed too many sitters this year to claim he is so far ahead of other strikers.
:agree:

Would have signed Balo on the cheap before splashing 90+ mil on Gonzalo
 

pitbull

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Jul 26, 2007
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There's 0 indication that he would, for one higuain has had the more illustrious career, secondly dezkos time at a semi good team proved to be underwhelming.
Dzekos time at City indeed is a good argument against him doing well for a top team. However 0 indication is too harsh, I can think of 3 arguments why Dzeko arguably would perform better than Higgy during the past 2 seasons:

1) He provided more goals and assists for his team during those 2 seasons
2) Higuain has been unable to form a lethal partnership with Dybala (of course, that's on Paolo too). Džeko, striker with a style more similar to Mandžukič (clearly is compatible with Dybala) than Higuan, hypothetically would compliment Paolo better
3) Ever since we sold Pogba and lost Claudio we have bad midfield play, Džeko is capable of being at the receiving end of high balls from defense, Higuain not so much. The moment Pjanič got injured in Cardiff the game was over because Higuain and Dybala were abused to the point they both started hiding. As witnessed this season, Dzeko keeps on going even when the dumbasses behind him fall 3 and 4 goals behind.

Sure, we're talking about a hypothetical situation and all the arguments are being pulled out of arse, but again, I don't think it's laughable to suggest that Džeko wouldn't deliver the way Higuain has or even better. Higuain is a WC striker, but so has been Dzeko lately
 

Buck Fuddy

Lara Chedraoui fanboy
May 22, 2009
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That was zizinhos argument, that certain goals matter more than the whole body of work. Also a mediocre season is not reason enough to sell a top CF, and it's not like we can recoup our investment or get anyone of comparable quality.
Recouping our investment is obviously impossible.
Getting someone of comparable quality really shouldn't be that difficult though.
 

GordoDeCentral

Diez
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Apr 14, 2005
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Dzekos time at City indeed is a good argument against him doing well for a top team. However 0 indication is too harsh, I can think of 3 arguments why Dzeko arguably would perform better than Higgy during the past 2 seasons:

1) He provided more goals and assists for his team during those 2 seasons
2) Higuain has been unable to form a lethal partnership with Dybala (of course, that's on Paolo too). Džeko, striker with a style more similar to Mandžukič (clearly is compatible with Dybala) than Higuan, hypothetically would compliment Paolo better
3) Ever since we sold Pogba and lost Claudio we have bad midfield play, Džeko is capable of being at the receiving end of high balls from defense, Higuain not so much. The moment Pjanič got injured in Cardiff the game was over because Higuain and Dybala were abused to the point they both started hiding. As witnessed this season, Dzeko keeps on going even when the dumbasses behind him fall 3 and 4 goals behind.

Sure, we're talking about a hypothetical situation and all the arguments are being pulled out of arse, but again, I don't think it's laughable to suggest that Džeko wouldn't deliver the way Higuain has or even better. Higuain is a WC striker, but so has been Dzeko lately
This argument doesn't work for the simple reason that it can apply to someone like immobile, that's why a stint in a big club with big ambitions and pressure is important.
 

pitbull

Senior Member
Jul 26, 2007
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This argument doesn't work for the simple reason that it can apply to someone like immobile, that's why a stint in a big club with big ambitions and pressure is important.
Given his club history and inability to adapt, I think it's safe to say that Immobile would be very unlikely to succeed at Juve or actually anywhere outside of Lazio :D

Džeko had a mixed time in City, but so did Tevez and a million other forwards and I don't think it's always because of pressure or ambitions, but rather poor club management. Icardi has never played for a big team, but I think his quality is clear to everyone.
 

GordoDeCentral

Diez
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Apr 14, 2005
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Given his club history and inability to adapt, I think it's safe to say that Immobile would be very unlikely to succeed at Juve or actually anywhere outside of Lazio :D

Džeko had a mixed time in City, but so did Tevez and a million other forwards and I don't think it's always because of pressure or ambitions, but rather poor club management. Icardi has never played for a big team, but I think his quality is clear to everyone.
Tevez was great at both manchester clubs fyi
 

The Quazis

Senior Member
Dec 21, 2012
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Yes, for sure that was a great goal. Probably his best of the season. Very few other strikers would score that. That's why we paid 94M. Then he missed a crucial penalty that most other strikers would score. Should we ignore that in objective analysis?

The truth is that goal against Tottenham used to be more frequent with Napoli and since then those occurrences have been fewer and fewer. He has to produce those goals regularly in order for him to be better than other strikers. That should be logical.

You see some of the goals Balotelli has scored lately? Why wouldn't I just sign him for free instead of Higuain for 94M. For sure Balotelli can score tap-ins. For sure he can score PKs. What is the difference that is supposed to separate them? Higuain has missed too many sitters this year to claim he is so far ahead of other strikers.
He missed a crucial penalty but he also scored one in the very same match. If you want me to list you elite players missing crucial penalties in much more important games it won't be hard. It has been on multiple occasions that any player can miss a penalty. Not worth denying it.

I can easily mention more of his extraordinary goals this season. The game against Milan at San Siro where he scored two outstanding goals outside the area. The goals against Atalanta in Bergamo when having a defender on his back he scored a torcher with his theoretically weaker left foot leaving the keeper with no chance or the one in Coppa when he brilliantly controlled a misplaced ball, run towards the goal from the halfline, skipped past a defender and coolly put the ball into the net showing how much he lacks pace and dribbling. Crucial goal against Inter recently giving us Scudetto in which he showed how he cannot score a header. I can really go on like this. And if you let me include the goals from last season... oh boy. Not to mention he has six assists in the league now.

Comparing Higua to Balotelli is just a confirmation that you're losing it. Not sure if it's worthwhile to go into that argument. To score a tap in isn't that easy as you make it be. First of all you need to find yourself in the right place in the right time. I would like to remind you that usually there are also defenders in the penalty area having exactly the opposite goal than the strikers. Finally, you need the technique and cool head to actually finish the action with a goal. Why Milan didn't hire some amateur athlete with very likely superior physicality instead of paying millions for and to Inzaghi?

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