Gleison Bremer (24 Viewers)

Apr 12, 2004
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Playing alone with Bonucci as a partner is the stuff of nightmares. I feel bad for Bremer and De Ligt for being put in that position in their careers. Even Chiellini when he played in a back two with Bonucci had problems. The truth is we can’t criticize Bremer and De Ligt about their time in Juve because of this. Give these players proper partners and they will look great and solid.
Is Bonucci really considered that bad?
 

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Farsopoli
Jun 13, 2005
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Bremer has been one of our best players. We are a team where nothing is working how can you blame him?

You put this guy in a functional team like Inter, Milan, Napoli and he would be a beast. If every player in our team showed 80% of his grinta, we would have been top of the table.
 

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Junkie Joe Joyce
Oct 2, 2013
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Nah I'm done blaming individual players


If almost all of our new signings all go to shit upon joining us the problem is not them.

As for why they all seem to make sloppy mistakes? I can only assume its fatigue both physically and mentally from defending 80 minutes every game and hoofing it away hopelessly only to start all over again.
 
Apr 12, 2004
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he'll be fine

ffs that's his 2nd cl match and he's been playing 2 matches per week for the first time in his career
Then he started playing six weeks ago.
Nah I'm done blaming individual players


If almost all of our new signings all go to shit upon joining us the problem is not them.

As for why they all seem to make sloppy mistakes? I can only assume its fatigue both physically and mentally from defending 80 minutes every game and hoofing it away hopelessly only to start all over again.
It is a team sport, you have to remember that, but I agree, it's as much culture as it is anything else.

The problem you may run into is: if the people at the top are the problem, and they are in a position to name scapegoat after scapegoat, you problem is ten times bigger than you think it is, and people like Zidane, Tuchel, blah, blah, pick a fucking name.

They are being set up to fail, and that's a huge problem.
 
Apr 12, 2004
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Man , i was so sure we can rally the troops for this one, speacially after this game with Salernitana :( Pretty disapointed , almost punch the tv on his chance ......the local comentator said that he just acted instinctvly and cleared the ball as it was infront of his own goal
And see, I think that after such an emotional loss there might be a hangover where it's hard to "get-up" for the next game. Imagine being yelled at for how shitty you played after the game and you later find out you were cheated.... Red cards, emotion goes wild, it's hard to get super excited week to week, but after 48 or 72, hours?

I would feel so down. I played competitively for 20 years, I've been there. These kids are 20-30 years old. No one out there is 45 and has an understanding of death and life and the world, it's a game.

Maybe you respond and get crazy with a 5-0 win, but your tactics don't help me believe that.

The most important thing is how Allegri always looks after something shitty happens. He looks like he's going to cry, he looks depressed the players aren't doing well.


My best coach ever would say, before a match, "Boys, I want the first whistle, I want the first foul, I want the first card, and I want the first goal." He was literally saying, hey, you're going to screw up, but that's how this shit goes, go play.

Allegri doesn't run down the sidelines like Simeone, he doesn't clap a lot after poor shit happens.

He seems (and I don't have a lot of Juve games under my belt this season) like the type of guy who always says, "Why are you doing that?" or "What are you thinking?" Instead of, "Great attempt, I love your effort, smart play, next time, think about your mate behind you, ask for help when you leave your marker, lean on them, they lean on you, team, we will make this work."

Obviously that's a silly precise example, but he just strikes me like the super religious dad who is always disappointed because you saw porn on your phone at 32, accidentally.
 

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Sep 4, 2006
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Then he started playing six weeks ago.

It is a team sport, you have to remember that, but I agree, it's as much culture as it is anything else.

The problem you may run into is: if the people at the top are the problem, and they are in a position to name scapegoat after scapegoat, you problem is ten times bigger than you think it is, and people like Zidane, Tuchel, blah, blah, pick a fucking name.

They are being set up to fail, and that's a huge problem.
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Adrian

Senior Member
Jan 31, 2003
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Sums it up though doesn't it, I think Max has lost the locker room.
100 percent. And like most other players in the team, they are very much in the mode of "I can't give a fuck".

Salvo, not sure if you follow AFL. I'm a carlton supporter, said it for years we were not as bad as we looked and the coach was the human hand brake. Voss came in, changed it one summer...no difference here.
 

s4tch

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Mar 23, 2015
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i mean i can't really take every info seriously, way too many fake news around the club nowadays, but if it's some legit info, then are we really this retarded? player is injured, yet we play him against monza with both bonucci and rugani available, then we let him join the nt?

if any of it is true then this club is really finished
 

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