Vialli_92

Senior Member
Mar 7, 2013
6,500
It's time we stop signing players like Lemina and Rincon's and sell our deadwood in Sturaro and Asamoah.

Those players don't add anything to our squad and they can't even push the regular starters for a place in the team.

Those players should not be at Juve we have to aim higher and these players will only hold us back.

Signing players who can push our regular starters for a starting position in attack and midfield should be our priority.

We not only improve our bench but our starters are kept on their toes knowing a drop in form will see them benched.
 

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Cronios

Juventolog
Jun 7, 2004
27,519
Look guys, let's be honest, we are not the pre-calciopoli Juve. Our image damaged and serie A is not the pre-calciopoli serie A. And even when serie A was greatly respected and we had the best director team there ever was, even then, we couldn't directly compete with the best and most wealthy teams out there! Let alone now.
In the post calciopoli era, we are now in the best position we ever where, we showed that we can reach a final and guarantee domestic titles. We proved that we can sign anyone after the 100 mil Higuain, we proved that we can be a wise next step for talented and ambinioned super talented like Dybala, Sandro and Pogba to thrive and evolve.
It's in our best interest to remain an attractive destination for such players. But what if we can't match their ambitions later on? Should we stop them and not allow them to move on against our will and after a significant profit?

It's not wise... Some of you have unrealistic ambitions, Marotta cannot afford that and he is in a position to know things we can't know. For example maybe Sandro's agent already communicated to Beppe that his player would favor a transfer from a specific team and huge offer, when Marotta asked him before the transfer window starts, if he would commit to the project regardless the offer. Should he openly admit that, it could damage our image.

We have a good team, we are growing and have the ambition to grow even more.
we don't want to risk more that it is necessary to change starters, but some times, we just don't have the option, as Roma didn't have the option to keep Pjanic and Napoli to sell their new Maradona To their most hated club!

Marotta oughts to stay ahead of things and he always probes our players for long time commitement and extends their trust and contracts where possible. It's good to know what to expect and plan ahead.
At this point of time, we don't know what's really happening, yet Beppe has seen the cards.
 

DAiDEViL

Senior Member
Feb 21, 2015
64,632
:baus: :tup: If it makes you feel better, and allows you to sleep comfortably at night, you are free to believe that shit. Simplistic approach. Let's believe everything management says.
Beppe gets good offer.
Beppe expresses desire to sell.
Beppe blames it on the player, telling the press "the player asked to leave"
Fans mad at player, "greedy scum"
Not Beppe's fault. Beppe's hands were tied. "Can't keep a player that want's to leave"
 

Bianconero81

Ageing Veteran
Jan 26, 2009
40,175
Beppe gets good offer.
Beppe expresses desire to sell.
Beppe blames it on the player, telling the press "the player asked to leave"
Fans mad at player, "greedy scum"
Not Beppe's fault. Beppe's hands were tied. "Can't keep a player that want's to leave"
You're wrong Bro. We must give the management the benefit of the doubt. If they say the player wanted to leave and the offer was too good to refuse, then hands were tied indeed. What more could Beppe have done? :boh:
 

Hydde

Minimiliano Tristelli
Mar 6, 2003
38,985
Look guys, let's be honest, we are not the post calciopoli Juve. Our image damaged and serie A is not the pre-calciopoli serie A. And even when serie A was greatly respected and we had the best director team there ever was, even then, we couldn't directly compete with the best and most wealthy teams out there! Let alone now.
In the post calciopoli era, we are now in the best position we ever where, we showed that we can reach a final and guarantee domestic titles. We proved that we can sign anyone after the 100 mil Higuain, we proved that we can be a wise next step for talented and ambinioned super talented like Dybala, Sandro and Pogba to thrive and evolve.
It's in our best interest to remain an attractive destination for such players. But what if we can't match their ambitions later on? Should we stop them and not allow them to move on against our will and after a significant profit?

It's not wise... Some of you have unrealistic ambitions, Marotta cannot afford that and he is in a position to know things we can't know. For example maybe Sandro's agent already communicated to Beppe that his player would favor a transfer from a specific team and huge offer, when Marotta asked him before the transfer window starts, if he would commit to the project regardless the offer. Should he openly admit that, it could damage our image.

We have a good team, we are growing and have the ambition to grow even more.
we don't want to risk more that it is necessary to change starters, but some times, we just don't have the option, as Roma didn't have the option to keep Pjanic and Napoli to sell their new Maradona To their most hated club!

Marotta oughts to stay ahead of things and he always probes our players for long time commitement and extends their trust and contracts where possible. It's good to know what to explain and plan ahead.
At this point of time, we don't know what's really happening, yet Beppe has seen the cards.
Woah Lord cronios!!!
 

rakib567

Senior Member
Apr 27, 2013
10,087
Beppe knows what he's doing.
So many times Beppe shows interest in mediocre players to misguide other Serie A clubs and then pounces out at the last minute.
He did it with the likes of Iturbe Gabigoal, Milik etc..
 

Sjaban

Senior Member
Dec 29, 2012
2,064
To be fair, it would be very hard to replace Beppe. Yes, he may have made some minor mistakes, but if you look at who's in charge of transfers at other clubs (Woodward at ManU for example). Those guys don't have a clue what their doing compared to Marotta, the only thing those guys have going for them is a war chest of money..

Edit: I don't think any GM/Sporting Manager would have been able to make such shrewd deals with the limited funds we had a few years ago, and bring us back to being a top club.
 

Zacheryah

Senior Member
Aug 29, 2010
42,251
This is not the time to replace him, he is delivering now!
We sacrificed a lot to get here, chances are that with a new face, we would have to start over.
Its indeed a most idiotic suggestion to fire Beppe. Some transfers people dont like, often reveal an inherent lack of intelligence in the person.


We read alot "but omfg rincon" "omfg Lemina" "omfg Asamoah" "omfg Sturaro"


Rincon was purchased mid season as a cheap addition to strenghten the mid-3. He's useless in a mid2, but untill februari we never planned for that.

lemina was hailed as a great talent, i did that for example, but he turned out unable to make it here. Sure he'll deliver elsewhere. We can use him to lower a transfer by including him.

Sturaro has been a great backup cm for us in big games where we needed extra loco steel. useless in a mid 2.

Asamoah used to be serie a's best lwb. Then he rekt his knee. We turned him into an LB. Made a great backup for Sandro once Evra fucked off.
 

DutchJuventino

Senior Member
Apr 9, 2015
3,936
To be fair, it would be very hard to replace Beppe. Yes, he may have made some minor mistakes, but if you look at who's in charge of transfers at other clubs (Woodward at ManU for example). Those guys don't have a clue what their doing compared to Marotta, the only thing those guys have going for them is a war chest of money..

Edit: I don't think any GM/Sporting Manager would have been able to make such shrewd deals with the limited funds we had a few years ago, and bring us back to being a top club.
Marotta and the Atletico one are the best in the world. Getting (potential) topclass players for good prices and signing some bargains aswel. Both are every year a formality on the paper of best technical director, both get's each year nominated alongside Monchi and some others.

Marotta is unreplaceable

Jorge Martinez was the only real misser imo.
Sturaro is great price/quality player, he didn't cost us even 10 million isn'it? Same for Rincon, it is not a bad addition. I wouldn't have spend money on him, but you can't blame him for such a small transfer who adds strenght and defensive stability to the game. Asamoah was one of the best of the squad in his first years. He is still a great athlete with good technique, sadly his injuries had a bad impact on him.
 

DutchJuventino

Senior Member
Apr 9, 2015
3,936
I agree with @Zacheryah ,

Mistakes are paying 15m+ for player who will never get playing time like Jorge Martinez.
Or overpaying for players like Manchester United does. It is not buying depth players for less than 10m who are better than the depth we had. That is not a mistake. You can question if it is smart and needed, for me not, but you can't call that a mistake.
 

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