Giuseppe Marotta (102 Viewers)

[Suns]

still don't understand the signing of Cuadrado, then the sale of Coman.

What was the thought of Cuadrado who doesn't fit without a formation with wingers? And why sell Coman when you could play him together with Cuadrado, surely you'd need two wingers to get this to work. What is 1 winger suppose to be good for? Now we're having problems fitting him into formation without playing other guys off position.

he had no vision this summer. Just signing players for the hell of it.

 

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[CrimsonianKing]

Problem is that he is out of his depth. Juve have grown faster than the management were ready for, and in many ways they tried to recreate a situation that plays more to their strengths rather than a situation that fits the natural evolution of the club and team as things stand. They tried to repeat the formula of the Conte season, where they brought in some written off players, some on a free. That's not the formula a team knocking on the doors of CL success could do with. Marrotta singlehandedly set the team back a couple of seasons with his approach on the market and it's crazy he was given a free run to do so. You simply cannot spent 100m on the mercato and not replace the one prime asset you were so quick to sell. It's shameful. Almost incompetent.

I just read an interview he gave where he acknowledged that we lost some of the experience with ate ex, Pirlo and the like, and it's so sad, but it was his job to replace what he identifies as a missing element in the team. You can rebuild a team all you want, but you've got to do it from the team's point of evolution not a process from scratch. We are largely thanks to Marrotta, today a team with little or no identity because it's clear as day Allegri doesn't know what the fuck to do with the collection of randoms that Marrotta has handed him. If Allegri actually wanted Hernanes as AM, he would be playing him there more than he has. He's been screwed over as far as this season goes. The saddest outcome in all of this is that we are most likely going to be missing out on CL football next season, and have only ourselves to blame.

The cherry on the cake being that Pogba will be sold st a cut price to compensate for the lack of CL money when we fail to qualify, and Morata will probably want to return to the biggest club in the world away from a mediocre club that struggles to recreate a formula with a coach that is good at tactics not building teams. Forget the percentages. And forget the past. This team cannot go any further with this pragmatic style of management.

The bolded part is important because it defines how from great to bad our mercato went.

It's common knowledge Hernanes was bought to fill the Trequartista role we so desperately needed, right? Yet by not even playing him there clearly tell us how he never wanted Hernanes. It was the board's pick, Marotta. Not Allegri. Which leads to question whether Allegri had a say on buying Dybala at all and even Alex Sandro. I honestly think he didn't, they do sound more like the Marotta "opportunities" deals. IT really seems we've been having a conflict between the board and Allegri.

Having said that, even Cuadrado sounds like he wasn't part of Allegri's plan. If you check Allegri's career all the way back to when he started coaching, he always preferred the classic Trequartista-based 4-3-1-2. So we go and get a winger. What's wrong with this picture?

 

[Juvellino]

It was so annoying seeing Marotta on his high horse talking about how he invested in serie a players and youth like he is some genius. Saying other clubs should do the same. Charityventus

 

[Hist]

There is no doubt Marotta has had a huge hand in screwing our team up, he won't learn from it though, he'll make all the same mistakes again.

Vidal should never have been sold without us securing a replacement

We have replaced vidal. Khedira and Lemina and staruro can all play the same role just not to his level. Pirlo is the one that didnt get replaced. Marchisio is the only player that can pass the ball in midfield now. We should have either went for a world class distributor or kept Pirlo in the same role from last season.

 

[baggio]

We have replaced vidal. Khedira and Lemina and staruro can all play the same role just not to his level. Pirlo is the one that didnt get replaced. Marchisio is the only player that can pass the ball in midfield now. We should have either went for a world class distributor or kept Pirlo in the same role from last season.

CK is right. Marrotta was a bit too cocky for his own good this mercato, and the success probably went to his head. Success that he probably wouldn't have in the first place if it wasn't for someone like Conte to drag the club through the dirt in that first season to turn our fortunes around. The guy has reached his limit here and if Agnelli has any vision he's going to have to consider how Juve needs to function to be an elite club again. A part of that function is going to mean selling better and buying better as a consequence, coz we have spent a substantial amount of money in the summer and weakened the team while doing so.

 

[Emmet]

Cuadrado was definitely thrown on Max, his thesis is centered around 4312 and no mention of wingers.

The Zaza signing is dreadful from every angle. Who knows who Max actually wanted out of all of our signings?

 

[DUKAC]

He fucked up the mercato.You just cant expect every mercato to be full of free agents and loans.And we have enough sources this year to buy decent champions not a last minute available players.He doesn't care about Alegri's future.All he cares about is his position.As simple as that.

 

[Juvellino]

Who should we hire? Should we promote Paratici?

 

[DUKAC]

Cuadrado was definitely thrown on Max, his thesis is centered around 4312 and no mention of wingers.

The Zaza signing is dreadful from every angle. Who knows who Max actually wanted out of all of our signings?

He was never asked about his opinion about anybody.

 

[CrimsonianKing]

Cuadrado was definitely thrown on Max, his thesis is centered around 4312 and no mention of wingers.

The Zaza signing is dreadful from every angle. Who knows who Max actually wanted out of all of our signings?

I'm afraid we'll never know.

 

[JCK]

He fucked up the mercato.You just cant expect every mercato to be full of free agents and loans.And we have enough sources this year to buy decent champions not a last minute available players.He doesn't care about Alegri's future.All he cares avout is his position.As simple as that.

What are you talking about? He fucked up the entire team. The damage he's done is beyond repair and the problems won't be fixed next season. Expect an era of terrible seasons. That is the start. Thank you Marotta!

 

[Ocelot]

What are you talking about? He fucked up the entire team. The damage he's done is beyond repair and the problems won't be fixed next season. Expect an era of terrible seasons. That is the start. Thank you Marotta!

Seriously, with a lot of your posts lately I think they're just being sarcastic and strawmanning, but then I realise you're actually serious.

 

[baggio]

No CL next season is the start of that phase. 2-3 seasons of utter mediocrity, chopping and changing personnel and selling your best players to compensate for the lack of CL revenue. This certainly will not be fixed overnight, unless we find a star in our ranks because Marrotta certainly cannot buy the ones who make a difference and are exclusively available in a certain price bracket even when there is money that has been spent elsewhere.

 

[JCK]

Seriously, with a lot of your posts lately I think they're just being sarcastic and strawmanning, but then I realise you're actually serious.

In such terrible days, the best thing you can do is analyse the posts of another member. But knowing you, you would not blame Marotta for the damage so it's understandable what you are doing

 

[Gep]

Juve are not as selling club. We never sold Tevez,Pirlo, nor Llorente.

 

[Juvellino]

No CL next season is the start of that phase. 2-3 seasons of utter mediocrity, chopping and changing personnel and selling your best players to compensate for the lack of CL revenue. This certainly will not be fixed overnight, unless we find a star in our ranks because Marrotta certainly cannot buy the ones who make a difference and are exclusively available in a certain price bracket even when there is money that has been spent elsewhere.

Finishing outside of the top 3 would be a disaster. If we can somehow finish in the top 3 we should still sack Marotta and Allegri because we need something more, we need to be a top club again

 

[DUKAC]

What are you talking about? He $#@!ed up the entire team. The damage he's done is beyond repair and the problems won't be fixed next season. Expect an era of terrible seasons. That is the start. Thank you Marotta!

So true if you not trolling.

 

[Jem83]

more than just "a little more" mate, he really screwed us up and unluckily, Allegri is a one season wonder coach too, so we have a double package right now.

I'm willing to settle on 80/20.

 

[DUKAC]

Juve are not as selling club. We never sold Tevez,Pirlo, nor Llorente.

No,no .Beppe didn't go to Munich to confirm Vidal's sale like he was selling Motta or DeCeglie.

 

[JCK]

So true if you not trolling.

I am not. The damage is beyond repair, it's devastating.