JCK

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JCK
May 11, 2004
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I'm saying that I can accept a longer transitional period (2, even 3 years) if the final result will be a really strong team, able to reach CL semis, finals and win the damn thing. It's not very satisfying to win this weak serie A 2015/16, if next year we lose Pogba and Morata, and then weaken the team even further.
Ok, what's done is done. We probably won't win this scudetto. But keep Pogba, Sandro, Dybala, Morata next summer. Add one or two top players. Keep all of them the following summer. Add one or two stars again. Even if we don't win the scudetto due to whatever reason (Roma, Inter, Milan etc also creating great teams), in 2017/18 we should have a really nice team, with star players in their best years.
That works with teams who have a different strategy than " we don't keep players who want to leave".
 

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Boksic

Senior Member
May 11, 2005
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Still don't understand why we needed the transitional year just after finally cementing our place in the Europe's elite and reaching the mountain top. That is what is so frustrating. We should have been building on that.
Its a dangerous game to play, not only becoming weaker on the pitch but financially off it as well. We were climbing that financial ladder with our success.
:agree:

We shouldn't have been aiming to go backwards but strengthen a good team instead.
 

j0ker

Capo di tutti capi
Jan 5, 2006
22,892
Which players we got are better than Inter's? Inter's players are established, ours are talents that might become good one day. We bought a big bag of question marks in the summer.
Seriously? If you think that the players Inter got are better than ours then it isn't worth discussing this further.
 

Albo

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Apr 13, 2009
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Good points, but I still think we will find our legs in next weeks while the likes of Inter won't be able to keep this tempo. Napoli are hardly doing better than us and they are meh like always. The only team that scares me are Roma.

So for me anything below the second place is doom.
This :tup:
 

dolph

Senior Member
Mar 30, 2006
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Which players we got are better than Inter's? Inter's players are established, ours are talents that might become good one day. We bought a big bag of question marks in the summer.
Established mediocre fucks. Would you really trade players with Inter or Napoli then you are the biggest retard on this forum.
 

lgorTudor

Senior Member
Jan 15, 2015
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Inter did that after their treble, it worked just great.
Mourinho was gone. And that's all

Plus they had more and older senators who stayed for longer than I suggested to keep Tevez (1 year)


We climbed and worked so hard to get to Europe's elite and the summer mercato flushed it all down the toilet.
 

Bianconero81

Ageing Veteran
Jan 26, 2009
40,177
We would have a transitional year, if not this season the next one for sure.

And our saviour Conte wanted a revolution last season.

I am glad we are having the results we are having just to see the reaction of some of you pussies here, even tampons aren't helping much.
:tup: :agree: Major apologist identified.

Marotta can do no wrong. All hail our lord and savior Lord Beppe :delpiero:
 

Fake Melo

Ghost Division
Sep 3, 2010
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That works with teams who have a different strategy than " we don't keep players who want to leave".
"We give players away for peanuts when they ask to leave"

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I wouldn't have been too worried if I knew that what we're building will last. I'll take 1 or 2, or even 3 trophyless seasons if I knew that in 3 summers from now we will still have Pogba, Dybala, Morata and the other young guys, old and prepared enough to lead the team as 25/26/27 year olds.
The trick is... they will probably be gone in 3 summers from now.
FWIW I think we'll have Dybala and Morata 3 summers from now.

Pogba is goner.

I just wish we had sold him this summer instead of Vidal.
 

DUKAC

Senior Member
Feb 29, 2012
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Still don't understand why we needed the transitional year just after finally cementing our place in the Europe's elite and reaching the mountain top. That is what is so frustrating. We should have been building on that.
Its a dangerous game to play, not only becoming weaker on the pitch but financially off it as well. We were climbing that financial ladder with our success.
Because Beppe's hands are tied and his proven transfer skill is a loan with option to buy.There is not every second player for free.

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I agree that it was waaay too much to lose three leaders in one summer. The transitional year would have came sooner or later, though. Even if we did let Pirlo go now, Tevez next year and Vidal in two years, we were gonna lose lots of other important players during this time. Licht won't last much longer. Giorgio is 31 and will keep losing speed, Evra will be gone, Buffon might finally lose it in a year or two, Barzagli as well. On top of this, it's probable that we will eventually lose Pogba and Morata, in 2016 or 2017.
So, the transitional year would have arrived. We were going to have to find a way to create a new functional defense and midfield and during those attempts we were gonna lose a scudetto or two.
But it would have been done gradually and the consequences would have been smaller. The way we did it, we might easily end up having lots of "transitional" years and the moment we recover from the initial shock (losing three stars in one summer), a new shock will follow.
Maybe it's better to buy one or if we can afford, two star players every year than a bunch of mediocre players for the same amount of money.

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This is where we disagree then. The squad we have is good enough to fight for fourth fifth place. The central defenders apart from Bonucci are on the decline with Rugani being too yound to make a difference, Same goes for the wingbacks except for Alex Sandro who is still not familiar with the team and league. Our mdifield is too thin beyond recognition and our star player Pogba looks lost in space now that he is the only one supposed to make a difference. As for our front line, well we have 3 very young players, two of them talented but are not ones that make a difference (maybe not yet, maybe never, we don't know how they will develop) and a fourth that needs a lot of service that we obviously lack. Roma, inter, Napoli are obviously much better, they have kept their core players and strengthened wisely, they look like teams that can develop and become better, we look like a team that has potential but also has potential to implode. Signs are showing the latter, there's a lot of chaotic behaviour on the pitch to suggest otherwise.

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Exactly, we look like we have put ourselves in a viral transition that will grow worse year after year especially when we start missing out on prize money to strengthen properly. We have to wait until we hit the jackpot again with players like Vidal, Tevez and Pirlo.
Maybe we won't hit that kind of a jackpot soon or ever.
 

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