Made perfect sense, but your racial sensitivities force me to put you on my ignore list, sorry.
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I understand the club wanting to hold onto him since his career with us just started, but unlike Rugani, if it came down to it, I would sacrifice him for a superior player like Hamsik or any other quality AM, based on what I seen of him so far.
Its still early days. But it would be more preferable if his defensive toughness and combativeness was more of a useful impact in terms of actual good and needed performances when he gets the chance, then the occasional offensive skill and plays you dont expect of CM/DMs anyways. Thats the main reason why I generally say this guy so far hasnt done anything worth hyping yet, until he shows he can put in the solid ground work that makes him a force to reckoned with in his main task, make his prensence felt. So far he seems to be just filling in the numbers and doing ok, and little else. And I mean all his performances for us so far, just not the Roma game, tho its extra dissapointing in a game where we already had a limited passenger like Padoin, that he didnt put in an extra shift that was needed performance wise.
I like Juve to focus on young italian talents, and have been watching Azzurrini games for long time mainly due to our younger players throughout past decade (90% procent dissapointment rate in the end, stopped paying less attention after Marchisio-Gio generation lol)). And seeing this guy for Italy in occasion, prior to that but especially last U-21 championship, what I saw, IMO it will be very suprising if turns out to be anything more then above average fringe/squad player. He was really suffering to stand out in games of that level. Especially awful in the first game.
Hope I'm proven wrong and club see something extra in him. In his defense, he hasnt been particularly hyped anyways, so he is there to be a decent midfield choice. But its sink or swim at this level, more so depending on what his aspirations are, so he will compete quite directly with Lemina for minutes most probably, so he risks being sidelined/forgotten down the line if he doesnt take the chance that opened up with Vidals absence.
Its still early days. But it would be more preferable if his defensive toughness and combativeness was more of a useful impact in terms of actual good and needed performances when he gets the chance, then the occasional offensive skill and plays you dont expect of CM/DMs anyways. Thats the main reason why I generally say this guy so far hasnt done anything worth hyping yet, until he shows he can put in the solid ground work that makes him a force to reckoned with in his main task, make his prensence felt. So far he seems to be just filling in the numbers and doing ok, and little else. And I mean all his performances for us so far, just not the Roma game, tho its extra dissapointing in a game where we already had a limited passenger like Padoin, that he didnt put in an extra shift that was needed performance wise.
I like Juve to focus on young italian talents, and have been watching Azzurrini games for long time mainly due to our younger players throughout past decade (90% procent dissapointment rate in the end, stopped paying less attention after Marchisio-Gio generation lol)). And seeing this guy for Italy in occasion, prior to that but especially last U-21 championship, what I saw, IMO it will be very suprising if turns out to be anything more then above average fringe/squad player. He was really suffering to stand out in games of that level. Especially awful in the first game.
Hope I'm proven wrong and club see something extra in him. In his defense, he hasnt been particularly hyped anyways, so he is there to be a decent midfield choice. But its sink or swim at this level, more so depending on what his aspirations are, so he will compete quite directly with Lemina for minutes most probably, so he risks being sidelined/forgotten down the line if he doesnt take the chance that opened up with Vidals absence.
Meh, a rare moment of quality. Sissoko had a couple of them too, was he a skilled passer of the ball regularly? No, Sturaro isn't either.
And to add to what Osman said, Sturaro hasn't made the defensive midfielder position his own. He's not doing Vidal's work, which is to be a dominant ball winning mid while also contributing to the attack. Fair enough, he's a limited player going forward, but his main attribute which is his defensive abilities, are not really making a mark into the game. Gattuso was not expected to do anything but defend, but he was ferocious and stamped his authority, you knew he was there and made it safe for the more talented players to go forward.
Sturaro by contrast, he's an ok defensive mid. In the games I've seen him play, he did not free up spaces for Pogba to go forward or gained back the ball enough. He fought, and I commend him for that, but in this team you have to be something more than make up the numbers if you want to be a starter. I'm not saying he's bad, but would I sacrifice him, a bench player at best, for a quality player like Hamsik? Absolutely, it's a no brainer.
And to add to what Osman said, Sturaro hasn't made the defensive midfielder position his own. He's not doing Vidal's work, which is to be a dominant ball winning mid while also contributing to the attack. Fair enough, he's a limited player going forward, but his main attribute which is his defensive abilities, are not really making a mark into the game. Gattuso was not expected to do anything but defend, but he was ferocious and stamped his authority, you knew he was there and made it safe for the more talented players to go forward.
Sturaro by contrast, he's an ok defensive mid. In the games I've seen him play, he did not free up spaces for Pogba to go forward or gained back the ball enough. He fought, and I commend him for that, but in this team you have to be something more than make up the numbers if you want to be a starter. I'm not saying he's bad, but would I sacrifice him, a bench player at best, for a quality player like Hamsik? Absolutely, it's a no brainer.
Beppe 
He promised a LB and AM and he delivered.
He promised a LB and AM and he delivered.
Hernanez juventus material? Not imo. Maybe as subs but not a starter.
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We need to be in the 400-500 million Euro bracket consistently for that to happen 
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Ah, you are one of those prime apologists, aren't you? Of course, he is to blame! He should've known before contacting them that a negative response was to be expected. You are going after Napoli's captain (a team that considers us a rival and hates our guts), and a dude that plays for FC Qatar Moneybags. His job is to identify reasonable quality targets, and go after them. Now, don't ask me who, because I don't get paid so much money to do his job. He has Paratici and a scouting team to do that for him.
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Ah, you are one of those prime apologists, aren't you? Of course, he is to blame! He should've known before contacting them that a negative response was to be expected. You are going after Napoli's captain (a team that considers us a rival and hates our guts), and a dude that plays for FC Qatar Moneybags. His job is to identify reasonable quality targets, and go after them. Now, don't ask me who, because I don't get paid so much money to do his job. He has Paratici and a scouting team to do that for him.
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It's not sarcasm , it's true.
We absolutely need to be in the €500m bracket to sign world class players.They command big wages and at the moment we struggle to keep our own like Pogba who commands crazy wages.
FFs we aren't even at the level of Arsenal financially and the gap will only get bigger with EPL's tv deal, but no,lets blame Marotta for not bringing in Isco or Götze
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We absolutely need to be in the €500m bracket to sign world class players.They command big wages and at the moment we struggle to keep our own like Pogba who commands crazy wages.
FFs we aren't even at the level of Arsenal financially and the gap will only get bigger with EPL's tv deal, but no,lets blame Marotta for not bringing in Isco or Götze
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My 400-500 million Euro bracket comment was sincere. No sarcasm yo. I realize we need to be at that level to offer more competitive wages a la Bayern. How the fuck can the shitty EPL have such a mega TV deal? WTF is Serie A doing?
Btw, I was never under the impression that Isco was a realistic target
Btw, I was never under the impression that Isco was a realistic target