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Thank god we didn't get Hamsik. It's bad enough we have to suffer through Pogba and Lemina, another stupid ass haircut would have been too hard to watch week in week out :D
 

s4tch

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Firmino, Coutinho, Teixiera, Gaitan, and Fekir would have all been viable options for TQ. Perhaps Fekir would have a little bit more expensive than the others, but he has a lot of potential.
pool payed over 40m for firmino. teixeira and gaitan are a lot cheaper options imho. not sure about fekir, probably expensive as hell.

btw firmino was my dream signing for about 2 years. he has everything you want from a ss/tq, and some proper defensive skills too.
 

JuveJay

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Also, his beautiful inch-perfect cross for the Mandzukic goal in Supercoppa. I fucking hate people with goldfish memories.
It's easy to get that bad rep when you are put in a position where your play is limited, think Marchisio. Sturaro is easy to label as a workhorse midfielder because he is tough and combative, but he's obviously got more to his game going forward.
 

JuveJay

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:lol: :rofl: I guess English players are better in the EPL as well, because they understand what it takes to get a result on a cold night in Stoke, Bournemouth, or Leicester :boh:
All he is saying is that home grown players understand the mentality of the league and don't have to adjust to everything that is new, I don't understand why this gets ridiculed every single time it is mention. Well I do.

No one is saying Padoin is better than Draxler, but that if you have an Italian Draxler and a German Draxler you sign the former because he doesn't have an adaptation period or as large a potential to fail, outside of the usual problems when moving to a club as big and demanding as Juventus.
 

Bianconero81

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@Mark made me believe the kid was the shit :sigh: He is still young tho :D

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All he is saying is that home grown players understand the mentality of the league and don't have to adjust to everything that is new, I don't understand why this gets ridiculed every single time it is mention. Well I do.

No one is saying Padoin is better than Draxler, but that if you have an Italian Draxler and a German Draxler you sign the former because he doesn't have an adaptation period or as large a potential to fail, outside of the usual problems when moving to a club as big and demanding as Juventus.
I can agree with that, but do we have an Italian Draxler? :klin:
 

JuveJay

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I can agree with that, but do we have an Italian Draxler? :klin:
That's the problem, there isn't one. How many young Italians have the basic ability of him? Probably only Verratti, who is superior, and in terms of natural talent El Shaarawy and Insigne on their day.

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We should go for a couple of young and talented flops next season. I am sure we can resurrect their careers :donedeal:
Speaking of SES... :D
 

only-juve

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Thank god for that, Hernanes for 11m over Hamsik for 25m any day
Agree, never liked Hamsik.

You know what, people talk about how exaggerated the prices are in England.

Personally I see Italian football actually worst with these prices. Leaving aside the difference in income of clubs from these two leagues (therefor the purchasing power of clubs in both leagues and higher prices in England) but serie A clubs are demanding extremely huge prices for their players even if they don't deserve it "yet" IMO.

40 mil for dybala, Andrea Bertolacci for 20 mil, Romagnoli for 25 mil... We're talking about paying pretty huge serious money for "potentials". Keep in mind that Italian clubs just came back from a serious Debt crisis between 2000 and 2010 period where some of them went bankrupted (plus all the mess back then). Something that the English clubs never went through.
 

AOD4

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Guilherme Siqueira has placed the blame squarely at the feet of Juventus for the breakdown of his proposed transfer from Atletico Madrid this summer.

The left-back appeared to be closing in on a move to the Italian champions, only for them to pull out of negotiations at the last moment and switch their attentions to Alex Sandro, but the player insists he is more than happy to stay at the Vicente Calderon.

“It's been so many years [that I've experienced the transfer market]. I've received offers in the past and sometimes accepted them, so I'm used to it,” he told reporters.

“I was fortunate enough to have received some significant offers, but I always kept quiet. I knew Atleti's doors were always open and that if I left then it would've been best for me and the club. The club never pressured me into anything.

“It wouldn't have been easy to leave Atleti. I've got used to how the team play. The final stretch of last season is my reference, it's when I played the most and I think I did well.

“It always takes a while to adapt to a new team, 'and there's the example of [Antoine] Griezmann from last season too.

“I'm motivated and confident. I'm competing with Filipe [Luis], who I can learn a lot from.

“[Diego Simeone and I] always talk on the phone and again we have the joy of having him in the dressing room. The Coach knows he can count on me for whatever reason.

“Juventus sent me my most formal offer in the summer. I don't know what happened. [The deal didn't break down because of] Atleti or Siqueira, but Juventus.

“We did what we had to do, but Juventus chose another player [Alex Sandro]. I know clubs always target two or three players at a time.

“[On links with Real Madrid in the past], it was very similar. I think I'll write a book in a few years!

“It was a different market two years ago, but whenever I tell a club that I won't leave, it's because I feel it's best for me and the club.

“If a move only benefits me then I won't force the club to sell me.”
 

Osman

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Hamsik hasn't done anything of note in the last two yrs.

You're just going by his name.
Benitez, srsly, it was all Benitez. How he tactically limited Hamsik's strenghts was ridicolous, Hamsik publically jumped for joy when he left and stated how difficult it was working under him.

Hamsik's last season was one of the weakest in years, and he still had 7 goals and 10 assists in the league (13 goals in overall). It took being coached by Benitez in first season in charge, for him to start scoring under 10 goals for the first time in 8 total seasons for Napoli (he has for years been one of the most consistent assisters in Europe).
 

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