JuveJay

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Mar 6, 2007
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I know, but transfermarkt has some random values at times. Most importantly, they seem to ignore bonuses alltogether, which can distort the actual fees quite a bit in some cases. Dybala is put down at a flat 32 as well for instance.
To be fair if you use the Italian site and look under 'altri dati' on the profiles it often states these things: http://www.transfermarkt.it/paulo-dybala/profil/spieler/206050

And Kondogbia: http://www.transfermarkt.it/geoffrey-kondogbia/profil/spieler/127189
 

Ocelot

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Jul 13, 2013
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you do have to discount bonuses imo, because they are performance relared, not a sure thing
Very often they're just ways to spread the payment or some minor securities in case that the player's injured all the time or the team falls apart completely.
 

Vlad

In Allegri We Trust
May 23, 2011
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When Juve bought Tevez, eventhough the sum of 15m included bonuses, we accounted the sum in its entirety. Pretty sure Inter and other clubs do the same.
 

ZoSo

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Jul 11, 2011
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I mostly maintain balance.

There is silly hate, where he actually deserves praise.


When people moderately comment, positive or negative, you usually dont see me in this thread unless they are factually wrong.

But when the big hate comes, i'll be present
You've never criticized are a single thing he's ever done. And it's not big hate, it's any criticism posted here.
 

Klin

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May 27, 2009
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Vidal's injury record was never a problem, how he recovered from that one serious injury was. For a while it looked like he'd never regain full fitness. I bet it was because we made him play injured in the first place though.
But would you go as far as saying he had an abysmal season? Besides, in the last 2 months, his defensive game was as close as it used to be in the previous seasons. He set the bar quite high for himself. That's how good he was for us. It's normal for a player (especially for Vidal whose performances are based a lot on his physicality) that he suffers a bit after a major operation in his knee.

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When Juve bought Tevez, eventhough the sum of 15m included bonuses, we accounted the sum in its entirety. Pretty sure Inter and other clubs do the same.
When Juve bought Tevez, you wanted to keep Giovinco partnering Matri/Mirko instead because of his behavior.
 

Vlad

In Allegri We Trust
May 23, 2011
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But would you go as far as saying he had an abysmal season? Besides, in the last 2 months, his defensive game was as close as it used to be in the previous seasons. He set the bar quite high for himself. That's how good he was for us. It's normal for a player (especially for Vidal whose performances are based a lot on his physicality) that he suffers a bit after a major operation in his knee.

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When Juve bought Tevez, you wanted to keep Giovinco partnering Matri/Mirko instead because of his behavior.
I didnt.

The post you are refering to was 2 years before his arrival.
 

Seven

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Jun 25, 2003
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But would you go as far as saying he had an abysmal season? Besides, in the last 2 months, his defensive game was as close as it used to be in the previous seasons. He set the bar quite high for himself. That's how good he was for us. It's normal for a player (especially for Vidal whose performances are based a lot on his physicality) that he suffers a bit after a major operation in his knee.
I thought he had an okay season, all things considering. But I understand why Juventus had doubts about him. The way I see it they aren't 100% convinced that Vidal will perform over the next few years and decided to cash in. I think that's a position one could defend, even if I personally do not agree with it.
 

Klin

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May 27, 2009
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I thought he had an okay season, all things considering. But I understand why Juventus had doubts about him. The way I see it they aren't 100% convinced that Vidal will perform over the next few years and decided to cash in. I think that's a position one could defend, even if I personally do not agree with it.
I agree. What others, including me, were mostly against is the club's approach on selling him. It's like we were content enough of accepting the first bid we received from Bayern, considering the fact that Vidal attracts a lot of top clubs interest, not the actual sale itself.

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no, enough of this, you can discuss marotta without having to repeat the same crap over and over, we dont need these petty disputes in every thread
So I guess I'm gonna find the same reply for those sucking Marotta's dick in every chance they get?
 

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