Giuseppe Marotta (183 Viewers)

[Völler]

Can we get a poll similar to the Badass/Janna one, but with you guys? The users decide which one gets to stay on tuz and which one gets banned. This is unbearable.

 

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[Ocelot]

Can we get a poll similar to the Badass/Janna one, but with you guys? The users decide which one gets to stay on tuz and which one gets banned. This is unbearable.

I got a better idea:
1) Create a thread for their battle
2) Ban both of them from all threads except that one
3) Let them fight it out.
4) The one who commits suicide last wins.

 

[Klin]

Can we get a poll similar to the Badass/Janna one, but with you guys? The users decide which one gets to stay on tuz and which one gets banned. This is unbearable.

It must be.

 

[Xperd]

This is some nasty entertainment thats for sure.And ofcourse we have some Dukac sizzlers from time to time.

 

[PedroFlu]

He wasn't overpriced though. There are plenty of worse players going for more these days, and only a very select few being sold more cheaply. The real problem was, and in a way still is, the buy-back clause. I wouldn't call the transfer bad in any way because of it, mainly due to my belief that it won't actually be excercised, but still.

20/22M for a kid who didn't play much at the pros is definitely overpriced, unless you are talking about a generational talent, which is not the case.

And it adds up the risk we run that this may become a loan pretty soon. The risk Marotta took is immense.

But even tough we overpayed, the upside is great and by the end of the season Morata may very well be valued around 25M. So kudos to Marotta. It's a high risk - high reward situation.

It's much different from overpaying 17-18M from Pereyra. It's a high risk with low reward situation.

But I really like the talent evaluation in Morata's case. Overpaying was what it took to get him.

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Btw i'm a Morata fanboy. I really like his characteristics. And I think his finishing is underrated. The kid has amazing tools. What worsens his finishing was his mental state, his anxiety, nervousness. And he's now getting over it. We're seeing the boy become a man.

 

[Ocelot]

20/22M for a kid who didn't play much at the pros is definitely overpriced, unless you are talking about a generational talent, which is not the case.

And it adds up the risk we run that this may become a loan pretty soon. The risk Marotta took is immense.

But even tough we overpayed, the upside is great and by the end of the season Morata may very well be valued around 25M. So kudos to Marotta. It's a high risk - high reward situation.

It's much different from overpaying 17-18M from Pereyra. It's a high risk with low reward situation.

But I really like the talent evaluation in Morata's case. Overpaying was what it took to get him.

If you look at the fees that players like Destro go for these days, and the talent Morata showcased at the junior level and everytime he got to play (can't fault him for not breaking through at Real really), it's a fair price.

 

[Klin]

His only issue with his transfer was the buy-back clause. And don't trust Ancelloti's words. A lot can change till the clause expires.

 

[PedroFlu]

If you look at the fees that players like Destro go for these days, and the talent Morata showcased at the junior level and everytime he got to play (can't fault him for not breaking through at Real really), it's a fair price.

Well I still consider guys like Destro overpayed. But it's a different case, since he is much more of a certain thing, with less upside.

Morata was much more uncertain, due to so much lack of experience with the pros. Even though it was Madrid.

 

[Lion]

is it realy that expensive? generally hyped strikers tend to cost quite a bit. even unproven ones.

for example lukaku cost everton 38 million euros. for a 21 year old striker.

welback sot arsenal 22 million euros.

and both of those are considered flops

 

[PedroFlu]

His only issue with his transfer was the buy-back clause. And don't trust Ancelloti's words. A lot can change till the clause expires.

Morata will decide if he's going back to Real Madrid or not. It will be up to him and that's all. Since he's clearly developing now, I don't think there's a chance he goes back now. The big decision will be made in 2016, also when Tevez leaves.

Many factors are on this.... it's impossible to predict. It's a good thing that he really forced his way out and really wanted Juventus. But in 18 months so much can happen.

It's just 50-50 as it stands. I'm just considering his will. Madrid will 100% buy him back.

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is it realy that expensive? generally hyped strikers tend to cost quite a bit. even unproven ones.

for example lukaku cost everton 38 million euros. for a 21 year old striker.

welback sot arsenal 22 million euros.

and both of those are considered flops

Thing is, I don't think Morata was hyped.

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Actually when we signed him I looked to see Madrid fans posts on Marca.

The vast majority didn't understand the price and thought it was a very good deal for Madrid. Both because of overpricing and the buy back clause.

He really didn't have enough chances to be hyped at Madrid.

 

[Martin]

is it realy that expensive? generally hyped strikers tend to cost quite a bit. even unproven ones.

for example lukaku cost everton 38 million euros. for a 21 year old striker.

welback sot arsenal 22 million euros.

and both of those are considered flops

i think you would be too

 

[ZoSo]

your new avatar is really cool this time voller

 

[AFL_ITALIA]

People also forget the amazing tournament he had in 2013 for the U-21s. That adds to the price valuation.

 

[Scottish]

Morata will decide if he's going back to Real Madrid or not. It will be up to him and that's all. Since he's clearly developing now, I don't think there's a chance he goes back now. The big decision will be made in 2016, also when Tevez leaves.

Many factors are on this.... it's impossible to predict. It's a good thing that he really forced his way out and really wanted Juventus. But in 18 months so much can happen.

It's just 50-50 as it stands. I'm just considering his will. Madrid will 100% buy him back.

My understanding is that he has signed a contract which will come into effect if Madrid take up their option. In other words if Madrid take up their right to buy back Morata he can't say no because he has a ready-made contract with them in that case.

 

[Völler]

your new avatar is really cool this time voller

What do you mean by "this time", ZoSo? My avatars are always very cool.

 

[Klin]

What do you mean by "this time", ZoSo? My avatars are always very cool.

You're no @Buck Fuddy.

 

[JuveJay]

I don't think €20m for a striker with so much potential is much at all. He broke all sorts of records at U21 level and below, his goals per minute ratio was always good for Real Madrid, and he had a lot of interest.

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I don't think €20m for a striker with so much potential is much at all. He broke all sorts of records at U21 level and below, his goals per minute ratio was always good for Real Madrid, and he had a lot of interest.

 

[Raz]

I got a better idea:
1) Create a thread for their battle
2) Ban both of them from all threads except that one
3) Let them fight it out.
4) The one who commits suicide last wins.

I like this one

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I got a better idea:
1) Create a thread for their battle
2) Ban both of them from all threads except that one
3) Let them fight it out.
4) The one who commits suicide last wins.

I like this one

 

[Vlad]

I got a better idea:
1) Create a thread for their battle
2) Ban both of them from all threads except that one
3) Let them fight it out.
4) The one who commits suicide last wins.

That's a terrible idea tbh. I'm not the one that starts the feuds, but merely defend myself which is within my rights and try to provide some elementary, but highly necessary education to that Maltese hoodlum in the process.


As for Morata we payed a small fee considering today's markets, where mediocre players are sold for 15m (seems like a random price these days), let alone highly touted youngster, one that excelled in every young category he participated till this date. He was sought all across Europe needless to say.

 

[Völler]

You're no @Buck Fuddy.

What's that supposed to mean?