Giuseppe Marotta (68 Viewers)
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I don't he even said something wrong. People should not expect us to win Champions League in the next couple of years. Other teams are simply ahead of us.
On the other hand we had many flop transfers and wasted a lot of money, as we spent as much as Bayern for example since we came back to Serie A, yet they are obviously much stronger. People should not forget how we were 7th in Italy not so long ago, CL was only just a dream. Now when we're finally in the right path and when we reached 1/4 this season, people all of the sudden want CL trophy next year. Well it ain't gonna happen unless we're really lucky and miracles do happen.
On the other hand we had many flop transfers and wasted a lot of money, as we spent as much as Bayern for example since we came back to Serie A, yet they are obviously much stronger. People should not forget how we were 7th in Italy not so long ago, CL was only just a dream. Now when we're finally in the right path and when we reached 1/4 this season, people all of the sudden want CL trophy next year. Well it ain't gonna happen unless we're really lucky and miracles do happen.
Can someone tell me if when we were one of europe most dominant teams in the late 90s and early 00's, we were one of europe top spenders ?? I don't think it was the case, i know the context differs now, but i think even then we weren't spending big as much as other european teams and not as much as now but we were able to compete every year.
I disagree with this. Winning a tournament like the CL is not formulaic. If it was about an economic gap, then Shitty would be winning it every year and their Qatari cousins at PsG would follow that up. I wonder if Conte and Marrotta would be so in awe of PsG had we come up against them?! No, I don't think so, even though the economic gap with them is probably bigger than the one with Bayern in terms of buying power it is a combination of things that a Bayern kind of club is doing right. One of those things is how you are using the money available to you.
Marrotta's approach uses a technique of spreading his investments rather than going the whole hog. Normally the kind of mentality you'd find at a small or midtable club. That's going to have to change at some point, where he's going to have to negotiate for a big game player for a big amount of money, so he can make the difference on the pitch, and off it, through merchandise sales and help the club image reach a wider demographic. We can talk about being behind the bigger clubsi, but that's never going to change if our thinking remains that we will buy big players only on our terms. This is not going to change in the forseeable future, so does that mean Juve are not going to have the resources to ever buy a top player??He speaks in his interview about having to wait 3-4 years before being in the big league agsin. But how are you going to achieve that when your core is four years older and you continue to be content just building a team made to win in italy?? While in the meantime spending money or resources for players like Oswaldo. Don't buy for the sake of it. Buy players at can make a difference, not make up the numbers. Marrotta will be deemed a failure if he doesn't deliver a striker this season and I think everyone here will agree with that. Scudetto or not.
Marrotta's approach uses a technique of spreading his investments rather than going the whole hog. Normally the kind of mentality you'd find at a small or midtable club. That's going to have to change at some point, where he's going to have to negotiate for a big game player for a big amount of money, so he can make the difference on the pitch, and off it, through merchandise sales and help the club image reach a wider demographic. We can talk about being behind the bigger clubsi, but that's never going to change if our thinking remains that we will buy big players only on our terms. This is not going to change in the forseeable future, so does that mean Juve are not going to have the resources to ever buy a top player??He speaks in his interview about having to wait 3-4 years before being in the big league agsin. But how are you going to achieve that when your core is four years older and you continue to be content just building a team made to win in italy?? While in the meantime spending money or resources for players like Oswaldo. Don't buy for the sake of it. Buy players at can make a difference, not make up the numbers. Marrotta will be deemed a failure if he doesn't deliver a striker this season and I think everyone here will agree with that. Scudetto or not.
Imagine this...
Three years ago Juve buys Mario Gomez for 35m eur and last summer Marotta buys some Mandzukic guy who never scored more than 16 goals in a season, even more, he scored them in the weak Croatian league. And now imagine Conte starts this Mandzukic. I'm sure that most of you wouldn't have been thrilled with this striking force of Gomez-Mandzukic.
Wanted or not, we're a work in progress. Take Bayern's starting XI and count how many of those players you'd start in our team. Probably not more than half. It takes time, lots of work, experience and careful addition of players in the team, even if at first glance those players won't look too attractive to the fans. Bayern made one star purchase back in 2007 when they bought Ribery. Robben was an injury plagued flop from Real Madrid. Then you have some strange big investments like Gomez and Martinez, and a bunch of purchases of players you never heard about, like the 28 year old Dante. Bayern spent years of careful planing and failures to create this team. We're only finishing our second year under Conte.
Anyway, as Barca and Bayern can show us, the youth system is really important. We know Barca's home grown stars, and we know that Muller, Schweinsteiger, Alaba, Kroos, Badstuber etc come from Bayern's youth system. We are obviously working a lot on finding youngsters who'll later reach the first team. We're also adding youngish players (Vidal, Bonucci, Asamoah) who we can also imagine as part of a successful Juve in the future.
I'm glad that we're taking the correct road. Teams like Barca and Bayern are actually showing us that their tactics are more successful than the "lets buy us a whole team made of stars" tactics. City, Real and PSG will eventually win something big, but how much time will it take them and how much money?
Three years ago Juve buys Mario Gomez for 35m eur and last summer Marotta buys some Mandzukic guy who never scored more than 16 goals in a season, even more, he scored them in the weak Croatian league. And now imagine Conte starts this Mandzukic. I'm sure that most of you wouldn't have been thrilled with this striking force of Gomez-Mandzukic.
Wanted or not, we're a work in progress. Take Bayern's starting XI and count how many of those players you'd start in our team. Probably not more than half. It takes time, lots of work, experience and careful addition of players in the team, even if at first glance those players won't look too attractive to the fans. Bayern made one star purchase back in 2007 when they bought Ribery. Robben was an injury plagued flop from Real Madrid. Then you have some strange big investments like Gomez and Martinez, and a bunch of purchases of players you never heard about, like the 28 year old Dante. Bayern spent years of careful planing and failures to create this team. We're only finishing our second year under Conte.
Anyway, as Barca and Bayern can show us, the youth system is really important. We know Barca's home grown stars, and we know that Muller, Schweinsteiger, Alaba, Kroos, Badstuber etc come from Bayern's youth system. We are obviously working a lot on finding youngsters who'll later reach the first team. We're also adding youngish players (Vidal, Bonucci, Asamoah) who we can also imagine as part of a successful Juve in the future.
I'm glad that we're taking the correct road. Teams like Barca and Bayern are actually showing us that their tactics are more successful than the "lets buy us a whole team made of stars" tactics. City, Real and PSG will eventually win something big, but how much time will it take them and how much money?
sorry dude. it was the case.
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Baggio was sold to Juventus, amid outcry from Fiorentina fans, in 1990 for €10 million (US$13.6 million), the world record transfer for a football player at the time
US$13.6 million back then - huge, huge money
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Deloitte Football Money League 2000–01 season revenues
Rank Club Income
(€ million) Country
1. Manchester United 217.2 England
2. Juventus 173.5 Italy
3. Bayern Munich 173.2 Germany
4. Milan 164.6 Italy
5. Real Madrid 138.2 Spain
6. Liverpool 137.6 England
7. Lazio 125.4 Italy
8. Roma 123.8 Italy
9. Chelsea 118.4 England
10. Internazionale 112.8 Italy
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Baggio was sold to Juventus, amid outcry from Fiorentina fans, in 1990 for €10 million (US$13.6 million), the world record transfer for a football player at the time
US$13.6 million back then - huge, huge money
wiki
Deloitte Football Money League 2000–01 season revenues
Rank Club Income
(€ million) Country
1. Manchester United 217.2 England
2. Juventus 173.5 Italy
3. Bayern Munich 173.2 Germany
4. Milan 164.6 Italy
5. Real Madrid 138.2 Spain
6. Liverpool 137.6 England
7. Lazio 125.4 Italy
8. Roma 123.8 Italy
9. Chelsea 118.4 England
10. Internazionale 112.8 Italy
Problem is (as Andy said earlier), soon we will need to replace the older players (Pirlo, Buffon, Barzagli)...the players like Chiellini will need replacements. We spend too much time trying to get a top player for one position. It's taken years to replace Trez and DP what happens when it's time to replace the GK and CBs?
He needs to seal the deals more quickly I think. That's my only qualm with him. Otherwise I like him
He needs to seal the deals more quickly I think. That's my only qualm with him. Otherwise I like him
Wasn't from scratch at all. Diego, Trezegol and Camo were pretty handy players to have on your team. Maybe Melo too. He chose to disband that team completely, which I personally didn't agree with, though I'm sure a few people here would think it was the right thing to do. His choice of coach, Del Neri, who played a 442 came along, and Marrotta didn't even buy him wingers for that formation. That year was a write off. His second mercato was much better, but like the first year, he bought many players.
Last year we spent on 3-4 more important players, but without prioritizing certain positions in the team. But this year, after our experience in the CL, it is clear where the needgap lies, and it's in our own best interests to spend our summer and resources trying to fix it qualitatively. But this is it really. If he can't deliver, he should be sacked.
Last year we spent on 3-4 more important players, but without prioritizing certain positions in the team. But this year, after our experience in the CL, it is clear where the needgap lies, and it's in our own best interests to spend our summer and resources trying to fix it qualitatively. But this is it really. If he can't deliver, he should be sacked.