JuveJay

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We were the third bigger spenders of the summer. How do we have not the funds?

In a year that you see Pastore/Falcao moving to EL clubs (french league as well in Pastore's case), the attraction argument is pretty much flawed. I mean, we didn't even need to get a Pastore, but some more Lichts/Vidals/Vucinics (proven quality, not even much expensive) for the LB, CB and LW would be enough to guarantee a safe season. If we can't get WC players, we could always tried about WC coaches who, by the way, can attract WC players. Remember Carletto? Even Didier? Both at our reach, we just didn't went for them.
You know PSG were taken over by Qatar?
 

KB824

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Sep 16, 2003
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dispelling the no CL myth:

We were top 3 as far as spending is concerned
Suarez to pool/ atletico Madrid
European football had nothing to do with marotta waiting to the last day to get alves who said he wanted to come here a month ago.

Please it's unfathomable not to come to terms with the FACT that marotta is provinciale
Deadwood- fail to see again how no CL interfered here

If anything, that deadwood would be easier to sell to teams currently playing in CL or EL, for the simple fact that they are not cup tied.


These last 24 hours have left me somewhat disappointed.

Not with the Elia transfer, but the inability to acquire another CB
 

Bozi

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We were the third bigger spenders of the summer. How do we have not the funds?

In a year that you see Pastore/Falcao moving to EL clubs (french league as well in Pastore's case), the attraction argument is pretty much flawed. I mean, we didn't even need to get a Pastore, but some more Lichts/Vidals/Vucinics (proven quality, not even much expensive) for the LB, CB and LW would be enough to guarantee a safe season. If we can't get WC players, we could always tried about WC coaches who, by the way, can attract WC players. Remember Carletto? Even Didier? Both at our reach, we just didn't went for them.
LMFAO Falcao went for 45m to a club that was like a kid in a sweet store on pocket money day.Pastore went to a team being bankrolled by another mega-rich egomaniac.

seriously i wonder if there will ever be any pleasing some folk,am i pissed we didn't get a big name? yes a little,but we are in no position to pay 45m for one player and upwards of 6m on wages.
we asked Marotta to bring us a new winger,he did that,we asked for new full-backs,he did that,we asked for a calmer head in midfield,he did that,we asked for a bit more creativity upfront,he did that
i would rather he did that than blow out whole budget on 1-2 players and leave our squad still horribly imbalanced.

as for Carletto and Didier...seem to remember we actually had both as coach before,Conte has earned his corn and should be given the chance to prove himself. unlike Ranieri and Del Neri he knows what is required to play for this club. unlike Ferrara he also has experience of managing a club team

the one area i really feel disappointed is that he didn't offload some deadwood but the real reason for this is the greed of player who have no desire to play football but would rather sit nice and comfortably on the bench earning a nice salary

this mercato is not perfect,it is not even great but some people need to gain some perspective on where Juventus are right now and what we can realistically expect
 

GordoDeCentral

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LMFAO Falcao went for 45m to a club that was like a kid in a sweet store on pocket money day.Pastore went to a team being bankrolled by another mega-rich egomaniac.

seriously i wonder if there will ever be any pleasing some folk,am i pissed we didn't get a big name? yes a little,but we are in no position to pay 45m for one player and upwards of 6m on wages.
we asked Marotta to bring us a new winger,he did that,we asked for new full-backs,he did that,we asked for a calmer head in midfield,he did that,we asked for a bit more creativity upfront,he did that
i would rather he did that than blow out whole budget on 1-2 players and leave our squad still horribly imbalanced.

as for Carletto and Didier...seem to remember we actually had both as coach before,Conte has earned his corn and should be given the chance to prove himself. unlike Ranieri and Del Neri he knows what is required to play for this club. unlike Ferrara he also has experience of managing a club team

the one area i really feel disappointed is that he didn't offload some deadwood but the real reason for this is the greed of player who have no desire to play football but would rather sit nice and comfortably on the bench earning a nice salary

this mercato is not perfect,it is not even great but some people need to gain some perspective on where Juventus are right now and what we can realistically expect
where are we exactly? you brought up the fact that we dont have money and are out of the CL, both have been dispelled as we spent more than anyone bar 2 teams, and Flamez showed out of CL teams which brought marquee players. We didnt need 10 players we need 4 solid ones and the sale of deadwood.
 

WΏΏdy?

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I know what you mean boz,but you gotta look at the complete picture including last season. Marotta has been a failure overall. So we were in no situation to land a big 45 m star,problem is marotta was not even able to get cheap youth. I am still a bit annoyed about the piazon transfer. If marotta would have been able to get rid of amauri (even for free) his wages would have paid for piazon's 4 seasons. Just an example.
 

.zero

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LMFAO Falcao went for 45m to a club that was like a kid in a sweet store on pocket money day.Pastore went to a team being bankrolled by another mega-rich egomaniac.

seriously i wonder if there will ever be any pleasing some folk,am i pissed we didn't get a big name? yes a little,but we are in no position to pay 45m for one player and upwards of 6m on wages.
we asked Marotta to bring us a new winger,he did that,we asked for new full-backs,he did that,we asked for a calmer head in midfield,he did that,we asked for a bit more creativity upfront,he did that
i would rather he did that than blow out whole budget on 1-2 players and leave our squad still horribly imbalanced.

as for Carletto and Didier...seem to remember we actually had both as coach before,Conte has earned his corn and should be given the chance to prove himself. unlike Ranieri and Del Neri he knows what is required to play for this club. unlike Ferrara he also has experience of managing a club team

the one area i really feel disappointed is that he didn't offload some deadwood but the real reason for this is the greed of player who have no desire to play football but would rather sit nice and comfortably on the bench earning a nice salary

this mercato is not perfect,it is not even great but some people need to gain some perspective on where Juventus are right now and what we can realistically expect
True but then those same morons who support Marotta and apparently do understand the "perspective on where Juventus are right now" shouldn't pollute the forum all summer long by posting garbage in the GRossi, Aguero and Mercato threads.

If they truly understand what this man capable of, where this club stands, and the financial climate of this club then they should realize that no big name players would ever sign here.

If you expect me to understand that Marotta is doing the best he can with what he has then those morons who believe that Aguero, Tevez, Pastore, Nani need to be banned.
 

Dostoevsky

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May 27, 2007
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Marotta :sergio:

Defense? What a joke... I thought we'd sign one, ffs. Ziegler sucks and Bonucci/Barzagli are not good enough. It's just horrible.

And I can't believe he offered Krasic to clubs on the last day... it's just...
 

Flamez

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You know PSG were taken over by Qatar?
Great, now they're the kings of the football world, no matter what. :rolleyes:

4.5M/year to Pastore, 40M transfer fee and no CL for PSG. We had funds to do that as far as I'm concerned. Not in an eventual bid war with PSG, but it's well known we could've got him a month or two before PSG. An no, I'm not saying Pastore is Marotta's fault, because I guess Conte didn't want him, but I'm just saying those players are not impossible to get as some want to make it to be.

we asked Marotta to bring us a new winger,he did that,we asked for new full-backs,he did that,we asked for a calmer head in midfield,he did that,we asked for a bit more creativity upfront,he did that
i would rather he did that than blow out whole budget on 1-2 players and leave our squad still horribly imbalanced.
I'm glad you're happy with the so proven Elia and Ziegler.

I made it clear in my post, we didn't need to get a Pastore/Falcao or even Suarez (the point was that they're not impossible to get, if you in someway missed it), as he's just another example, but at least we should've covered better some of our gaps to avoid as much question marks in our team as we could. A Vargas and a Lugano, for example, would do the job instead of Elia, Giaccherini and Estigarribia altogether. We'd probably even spend less with the duo I said.
 

.zero

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Marotta :sergio:

Defense? What a joke... I thought we'd sign one, ffs. Ziegler sucks and Bonucci/Barzagli are not good enough. It's just horrible.

And I can't believe he offered Krasic to clubs on the last day... it's just...
Not only does he know what he's doing but he's also doing the best he can with what he has, Dusan.

What don't you get about it? What consistency will this club have if we keep hiring/firing GM's and coaches?

This is what people can say about him in defense
 

Bozi

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where are we exactly? you brought up the fact that we dont have money and are out of the CL, both have been dispelled as we spent more than anyone bar 2 teams, and Flamez showed out of CL teams which brought marquee players. We didnt need 10 players we need 4 solid ones and the sale of deadwood.
no i meant that we don't have the money to compete for ths big transfers

the last 2 years we have fapped at Aguero,Rossi,,Dzeko,Neymar
many of these without any substance at all and yet people continually raise the expectations of the quality of player we are able to attract right now.
if we had not signed any of this summers buys and instead bought 3-4 player people here would be absolutely going mental that we didn't fill all the gaps in our squad,we can't have it both ways


WΏΏdy;3226428 said:
I know what you mean boz,but you gotta look at the complete picture including last season. Marotta has been a failure overall. So we were in no situation to land a big 45 m star,problem is marotta was not even able to get cheap youth. I am still a bit annoyed about the piazon transfer. If marotta would have been able to get rid of amauri (even for free) his wages would have paid for piazon's 4 seasons. Just an example.
if he has invested in youth it would be "great inexperienced players,we won't do anything"
as i said before,getting rid of Amauri,Iaquinta,etc is all good in theory,but what about when the player refuses to leave and would rather sit on the bench earning money. is that still the fault of our current GM?



True but then those same morons who support Marotta and apparently do understand the "perspective on where Juventus are right now" shouldn't pollute the forum all summer long by posting garbage in the GRossi, Aguero and Mercato threads.

If they truly understand what this man capable of, where this club stands, and the financial climate of this club then they should realize that no big name players would ever sign here.

If you expect me to understand that Marotta is doing the best he can with what he has then those morons who believe that Aguero, Tevez, Pastore, Nani need to be banned.
whoah just let me explain...i DO NOT SUPPORT Marotta,i am just trying to look at this with a more open perspective. anybody who honestly thought we would land Aguero is deluded and trust me i would have went off my head f we blew half our budget on one player

but hey-ho,lets bash Marotta for not landing him,lets also bash him for not handing over 4m to Lugano a year,etc,etc
 

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