Giuseppe Marotta (140 Viewers)

[baggio]

Trez,Gio and Camo went out because Marotta was thinking long-term. That's why I am giving him a second chance. This summer it's make it or break it. The whole board fucked up with Delneri, not only Marota.
I would like to see what he does this summer before I judge him furthermore.

Trez is a legend, and even if we take that away for a sec, how was letting Gio and Diego go, be considered long term thinking when both could pretty much form the creative spine of this team for years to come. Both under 25, gotten rid of, probably at a loss. How is that long term thinking? The whole board couldnt have fucked up with Del Neri, coz he wouldn't have come anywhere near the Juve HQ if it wasn't for his working relationship with Marrotta at Sampdoria who proposed his name here. That has to be obvious. He may get another summer at the club and may do a better job, but a large chunk of our failures this season, I attribute to him more an Del Neri. There is no doubt in my mind, that he should be e one leading the clear out.

PS:Quite honestly, we may end up at the same position as last year, but make no mistake, this team is weaker than last year, and needs even greater reinforcements than the people we let go off last summer.

 

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[JuveJay]

yes juve can really make me made defenitily when some member here say things like Pirlo, Toni, Barzagli are good
common we need a new team who can dominate Italy for at least 5 years and not some old over paid old players

this summer who should get rid of all the old players and when no one wants them we should just buy out there contract i can stand an other year of watching Grosso, Grygera, Toni, Iaquinta and co sitting on the bench instead of some real talents like boniperti and sorensen

You said a lot of things there, some I agree with and others are a bit crazy like firing Marotta for the Giovinco deal. It's true we should be looking at young players but we also are not in a great position to attract the top end ones right now, maybe 1-2 plus the second tier or talents, we just want to see progression.

 

[baggio]

But J if were not in a position to attract top players, than why let talents on the roster slip away? Gio, Diego and Trez didn't ask to leave. Fact is, his objectives were wrong, his choice of players for the club were wrong. His strategy was wrong. And his transactions were wrong. In other words, he was not the right man for this job.

 

[Bezzy]

You said a lot of things there, some I agree with and others are a bit crazy like firing Marotta for the Giovinco deal. It's true we should be looking at young players but we also are not in a great position to attract the top end ones right now, maybe 1-2 plus the second tier or talents, we just want to see progression.

I want to fire Marotta not only for the giovinco deal but i do blame him for the pathetic deal

 

[Fake Melo]

Trez is a legend, and even if we take that away for a sec, how was letting Gio and Diego go, be considered long term thinking when both could pretty much form the creative spine of this team for years to come. Both under 25, gotten rid of, probably at a loss. How is that long term thinking? The whole board couldnt have fucked up with Del Neri, coz he wouldn't have come anywhere near the Juve HQ if it wasn't for his working relationship with Marrotta at Sampdoria who proposed his name here. That has to be obvious. He may get another summer at the club and may do a better job, but a large chunk of our failures this season, I attribute to him more an Del Neri. There is no doubt in my mind, that he should be e one leading the clear out.

Not replacing Trez was more of a mistake than letting Trez go IMHO. As far as letting Diego go I also disagreed with that decision. Marotta wanted to start a whole new project and I disagreed with that as well.
I am by no means a pro-Marotta guy, but we need to let Gio,Trez and Diego-cases go and focus on the summer. Let's see if Marotta can replace those champions with new champions this summer.

I wanted Gio, Trez and Diego to stay as well. I didn't want a coach who couldn't adapt Gio and Diego in his formation but a coach who could use them both. I was against a total revolution past summer but we are halfway through this new revolution and we'll have to see how it goes.

Marotta needs to cut lose the garbage this summer and bring in champions. Let's see what happens.

 

[JuveJay]

But J if were not in a position to attract top players, than why let talents on the roster slip away? Gio, Diego and Trez didn't ask to leave.

I don't really see how the two things are linked. We're not in a position to attract them now because of our league finish. I've already said my bit on Trezeguet. Diego, not a fan, trick pony who dazzles. Giovinco was a bit part player under a succession of coaches. Sure we could keep all of them in hindsight.

Fact is, his objectives were wrong, his choice of players for the club were wrong. His strategy was wrong. And his transactions were wrong.

Some were, not all, let's not pad the stats, they were all bought for 4-4-2 yet some clearly didn't fit. Krasic came in for Diego financially, and Quagliarella tactically, take it or leave it. I'd take those two over Diego every day of the week and twice on Sundays.

In other words, he was not the right man for this job.

If we judge as of now, but I won't. As of now, less than impressed.

 

[Fake Melo]

If we judge as of now, but I won't. As of now, less than impressed.

 

[Buck Fuddy]

PS:Quite honestly, we may end up at the same position as last year, but make no mistake, this team is weaker than last year, and needs even greater reinforcements than the people we let go off last summer.

That is true.

What we needed last year were 2 or 3 great (or just good) signings to add to a team that already had some potential.
What we need right now, is a lot more than 3 quality signings.

Del Neri is obviously not the greatest coach ever, but just looking at yesterday's line up & bench tells you everything you need to know.

 

[WΏΏdy?]

If morontta wants to keep either of his heads he has to fire del neri,i dont see DN coaching another season.

Too bad we are stuck with marotta though,this fool should be fighting for his job with DN

 

[RAMI-N]

How long is his contract by the way? 2 or 3 years?

 

[.zero]

The Society seems to be in full effect and ready for the summer where their lord and savior will prove his greatness

 

[Azzurri7]

How long is his contract by the way? 2 or 3 years?

Two years. 1 more year left on his contract.

 

[RAMI-N]

Two years. 1 more year left on his contract.

Good, so it's his last chance to prove himself :xfinger:

 

[baggio]

I don't really see how the two things are linked. We're not in a position to attract them now because of our league finish. I've already said my bit on Trezeguet. Diego, not a fan, trick pony who dazzles. Giovinco was a bit part player under a succession of coaches. Sure we could keep all of them in hindsight.

Now? Actually, we weren't in a position to attract them last season either, going by that logic, given that we finished seventh even last year. Under those circumstances, I don't think it would've been wise to get rid of the players that had age on their side, and offered a fair share of creativity in their play. Call Diego what you want, but he'd still be more useful than half the players we currently have on our roster. Giovinco may have been a bit part player, but he contributed more in the time that he played than the people who came into replace him. And its like you said, thanks to a succession of coaches, neither he nor Diego got the continuity they deserved. Also, I don't think this is being said in hindsight, it was pretty evident at the time those deals were being made that they would come back to haunt us, and they did.

Some were, not all, let's not pad the stats, they were all bought for 4-4-2 yet some clearly didn't fit. Krasic came in for Diego financially, and Quagliarella tactically, take it or leave it. I'd take those two over Diego every day of the week and twice on Sundays.

Yes, they were apparently being brought in to play a 4-4-2. So we disposed off the only players who could offer something in attack even under those conidtions(Del Neri publicly backed Diego), and forgot to even bring in two quality fullbacks to make that formation work. Krasic only came in for Diego financially, because of the will of the player that gave us the advantage and not Marrotta's bargaining power. If he did have any, Martinez wouldn't have cost 12m. Also, i don't buy the fact that Quag was a direct tactical replacement for Diego. Had that been the case, we wouldn't have waited to be rejected by Di Natale and Borriello first. It worked thanks to Marrotta's luck rather than his genius. Fact is, he broke more than he could fix.

If we judge as of now, but I won't. As of now, less than impressed.

I think one year is a fair window to give someone to judge their work. Marrotta made too many changes for the teams good, and that's why we are in the precarious situation that we are in now. He destabilised a pretty decent unit and didnt give it the continuity it deserved. Fucking up the mercato with the money at hand this time, could mean obscurity for years.

 

[.zero]

Good, so it's his last chance to prove himself :xfinger:

The Society feels that he has nothing to prove. He can only add to his greatness and legend

 

[RAMI-N]

The Society feels that he has nothing to prove. He can only add to his greatness and legend

I love the society

 

[JuveJay]

Now? Actually, we weren't in a position to attract them last season either, going by that logic, given that we finished seventh even last year.

Yes...

Under those circumstances, I don't think it would've been wise to get rid of the players that had age on their side, and offered a fair share of creativity in their play. Call Diego what you want, but he'd still be more useful than half the players we currently have on our roster. Giovinco may have been a bit part player, but he contributed more in the time that he played than the people who came into replace him. And its like you said, thanks to a succession of coaches, neither he nor Diego got the continuity they deserved. Also, I don't think this is being said in hindsight, it was pretty evident at the time those deals were being made that they would come back to haunt us, and they did.

On Diego I'll just repeat my other point. With hindsight or foresight I'd still rather have what we have now, he isn't even close to being an important issue. Goalscoring wasn't even an issue until we had no strikers and then we brought in a good Matri, currently we are two goals shy of Napoli's fabled attack. Rather than focus on the flashy might have beens the fullbacks are the real issue that needed, and still needs, addressing.

I think the other topics we have spoken about before, let alone others. Talk of luck with Quagliarella seems subjective, depending on the point you are trying to make. He had a list and went down it, all could work or all could flop, the director general only has a part to play in that eventuality.

Destabilised a pretty decent unit? Nah, let's go back to this time last year and try and tell me the same thing. They were a joke just like this team, nothing stable about it. Think back in time, a revolution was called for, rightly or wrongly. Older players needed releasing whether it was last season or this. However this is my main worry, we don't seem to be building anything.

Having said that I personally don't think one year is enough and didn't back when he was appointed, I didn't think 5 months was enough, or 6 months, or 9 months, but it'll be a big summer for sure. This summer he has no excuses, he's had time to scout and find the right players.

 

[Ahmed]

The Society feels that he has nothing to prove. He can only add to his greatness and legend

how come you know so much about the Society?

clearly you are a part of it...IMPOSTOR!

 

[adriano_c]

That's not fair. Del Neri wasn't the one who wanted Trez, Gio, Diego and Camo out. in fact Del Neri wasn't the one who wanted this job, till he got it. If anyone has to go go first, it should be this inept visionary and his psychological tsunamis.

LOL@Marotta suffering from Calciopoli-induced PTSD despite being in Genoa at the time...

 

[JuveJay]

He did say Juventus, but we'll overlook that.