Giuseppe Marotta (92 Viewers)

[baggio]

Therefore it's obvious that Secco didn't need to revolutionize the squad. Maybe Marotta didn't, but he had a coach with a different way of thinking tactically.

Again. How much precedence was he giving the new coach, given that Diego was wanted by the coach from what it seems. I don't think Del Neri was the reason 14 new players were brought in. It was more for the lack of clarity. And besides, if he wanted to play to the coach's system, why were we playing with only one legit winger and no qualified full backs?

 

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[JuveJay]

We bought Motta and Traore in to contest with Grygera and De Ceglie and outcast Grosso. They are not qualified fullbacks? They might be crap but they are fullbacks.

We sold Diego and bought three wide players: Krasic, Pepe and Martinez. Martinez was an error because clearly he isn't that good in a 4-4-2, but that was the reason. So the plan was always to play 4-4-2 with Krasic plus Pepe or Martinez, whoever was healthy or on form. Marchisio slotted in during an injury crisis, did ok in balancing and Delneri stuck with it and his system even though ultimately results didn't come.

As for Delneri saying he was happy to use Diego, was that really the case or coach talk? Why believe him in this moment and rubbish him the next time he says something.

 

[.zero]

Patience is a virtue

Says the church, and we know how they've been doing for the past 10 years

 

[KB824]

I wonder if people remember just how bad this team was last year.

Especially with the way that they were playing the last 2 months of the season.

Its safe to say that the only reason they didn't slide further down the table was because they ran out of matches to play.

 

[.zero]

The team outlook isn't really any better at the moment. Still out of the top 4 and the same unrest in the front office if not more

 

[KB824]

The team outlook isn't really any better at the moment. Still out of the top 4 and the same unrest in the front office if not more

I'm willing to see how the rest of the season plays out, and then take it from there. I'm not an eternal optimist nor an eternal pessimist. I would rather draw my own conclusions at the end of the season.

The only thing that I will say is that I do like this team a lot better than last year's version.

 

[Bjerknes]

We could easily finish level on points with last season if we aren't careful in these next few matches.

So from a cost-benefit analysis perspective, we spent all this capital only to finish in the same general region as last season.

That, my friends, is a failure.

 

[.zero]

We could easily finish level on points with last season if we aren't careful in these next few matches.

So from a cost-benefit analysis perspective, we spent all this capital only to finish in the same general region as last season.

That, my friends, is a failure.

The Society will claim it as a fluke, they will issue the same excuse of "lets give him 1 summer mercato"

 

[KB824]

We could easily finish level on points with last season if we aren't careful in these next few matches.

So from a cost-benefit analysis perspective, we spent all this capital only to finish in the same general region as last season.

That, my friends, is a failure.

Its very possibe that could happen. But we are dealing with assumptions in this case. They are at 51 points with 6 matches to go, so we really don't know either way. Like I said, I will give it until the end of the season before I make any judgement

The other thing to take into consideration andy, is that they spent a lot last year, and ended up being far worse than anyone could have imagined

 

[suligodsilla]

I'm willing to see how the rest of the season plays out, and then take it from there. I'm not an eternal optimist nor an eternal pessimist. I would rather draw my own conclusions at the end of the season.

The only thing that I will say is that I do like this team a lot better than last year's version.

 

[Red]

In essence there have been hits and misses, but the only truly expensive mistake this year has been Martinez. If anyone can find a director who gets it right every single time, let me know. or better yet, let the Board of Directors in Truin know.

He doesn't get a free pass from me, but he gets more rope than others are willing to give in order for him to hang himself. This summer's mercato will be the true test.

I agree.

Only thing you didn't cover was the appointment of Delneri (was that Marotta's decision?), which was quite a poor choice by someone at the club.

 

[The Curr]

I'd say Marotta was hired with the understanding that Delneri would come with him.

 

[Rollie]

In essence there have been hits and misses, but the only truly expensive mistake this year has been Martinez. If anyone can find a director who gets it right every single time, let me know. or better yet, let the Board of Directors in Truin know.

He doesn't get a free pass from me, but he gets more rope than others are willing to give in order for him to hang himself. This summer's mercato will be the true test.

As for simple accounting expenditures, that's pretty much true. He's only really whiffed completely on 1 'large' purchase.

But that's also a pretty simplistic line of reasoning, when addressing the cost of his mistakes. Not addressing crucial positions has cost us substantially, and we're probably going to miss out on CL - and that's worth a ton of cash.

We'll have to see how all the loan situations play out before really judging them.

The issue with Giovinco is less about the loan and more down to the option, man. That was ridiculously cheap, and not a great piece of business at all.

Also, I feel comfortable that I could easily counter that Diego argument - I consider that to be a significant mistake - but People are tired of hearing about Diego so I'll let it go.

You've called me an optimist buddy, but I think your post proves you've got a pretty optimistic streak yourself. Cheers to that, though - this team needs all the optimism its fans can muster right now.

Thanks to Luca Toni, the dream is still alive... HA!

 

[baggio]

We bought Motta and Traore in to contest with Grygera and De Ceglie and outcast Grosso. They are not qualified fullbacks? They might be crap but they are fullbacks.

We sold Diego and bought three wide players: Krasic, Pepe and Martinez. Martinez was an error because clearly he isn't that good in a 4-4-2, but that was the reason. So the plan was always to play 4-4-2 with Krasic plus Pepe or Martinez, whoever was healthy or on form. Marchisio slotted in during an injury crisis, did ok in balancing and Delneri stuck with it and his system even though ultimately results didn't come.

As for Delneri saying he was happy to use Diego, was that really the case or coach talk? Why believe him in this moment and rubbish him the next time he says something.

Motta and Traore as options for Grygera and DeCeglie? Were they improvements in any respect? And I don't mean in hindsight. The latter didn't even come with an option to buy! What foundations was he building this team on - a bunch of players who perhaps didn't know where their future lay - somewhere, I feel that is playing on the team psychologically. And Pepe and Martinez would not cut it as first team players in any of the top four teams in Italy. Something, I'm sure he was aware of. I'm sorry to say, he got owned by Catania in the Martinez deal. Add to that, his yardstick itself was a top four finish, which wasn't even the right way to approach things, because he tried to deconstruct and build a team for that objective, given that he did it a year ago. And as the season played out, he even admitted the need for more quality, something everyone was well aware of. Wasn't that something he should've understood before he signed for the club? Way too many questionable decisions, none befitting the stature of Italys most decorated club. This guy doesn't have a big team mentality. It's clear as daylight, but I guess we'll only get to see it when he gives Del Neri another go at qualifying for the EL next season.

 

[v1rtu4l]

i think people should be really quite with their wisdom that is spread at hindsight...
many people here actually wanted molinaro out and said that de ceglie was better (sry, he is not) and surely would have agreed to swap moli for traore, while you see now moli is a better defender than those two combined.

same story with the love for motta ... 90% where sure he was good and see how crap he is ... he is the perfect chicken head pendant to de ceglie only on the right side

i am sure if we had a poll for every signing and every player that is to be sold there were more failures than with nearly any sporting director probably even with secco)

 

[Bianconero_Aus]

Still 6 games left to go in the season. If we make the CL (which is highly unlikely IMO) do all of you still want Marotta out?

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

No.

 

[GordoDeCentral]

yes, just coz you dodged a bullet dont mean you wanna be shot at again

 

[Bjerknes]

yes, just coz you dodged a bullet dont mean you wanna be shot at again

Exactly.

 

[The Curr]

Exactly.

Your 90,000th post is a one-worder. :groan: