Bjerknes

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Some people would say that Krasic wanted to come to Juve all along and wouldn't go anywhere else.
*Raises hand* I simply don't see how one can call Krasic a major coup for the club when he's always wanted to join. His former employers settled for 15M for the lad, which isn't a bad price, but that isn't a steal by any means.

Whether it is due to his injuries, or the misuse of him out of position, whatever the case may be, this was a bad signing.
Umm, how about the fact that he cost us 12M Euros? Is that not as obvious? :D

Marco Storari- Anyone who complains about this purchase seriously needs to get a clue. They would be relegation strugglers without him for the first half of the season.
I think that's a bit of hyperbole, Serge. Manninger hasn't been a complete disaster when he's played, and last year I thought he did well when Buffon was out.

Luca Toni- Drastically cut his wages to come to Juventus. Drastic pay cut through June of 2012
I'm finding myself agreeing with Kyle. 3M Euros per season is a bit steep after being cut from a provincial club like Genoa.


Is it because he's being asked to play in a quasi Regista position at Juve? And if it is the case that they do go out and need to find another midfielder, then so be it, as they didn't spend a dime to get him for this year.
Earlier in the season Aquilani was doing well as a central midfielder, playing the ball well both deep and beyond Melo. Then halfway through he struggled. So I doubt it's about the role he was given, but who knows.

We'll have to sign another midfielder anyway.

Quagliarella - It took the club literally 2 months to rebound from his loss
Wait a minute. Are you attributing all our problems at the time to the loss of Quag? Because I simply don't agree with that. Problems were already in the pipeline, proven by some of the Europa performances and our performances as a team in Serie A even with Quag.

Alessandro matri- Not only is he the best january purhcase in Serie A, but its not that much of a stretch to say that he was the best january purchase in all of Europe.
David Luiz might disagree. At least Matri has done better than an off-form Torres, though.

Simone Pepe He's a good squad player, which I believe was the intent all along.
Pretty expensive squad player if you ask me. And apart from having a good game against Genoa, he really hasn't done much for us, in my view. I would rather just give him back and find a player in the Bosman market.
 

KB824

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You've got to be joking. After Genoa dumped him there is no way he would be earning upwards of 3mil at some other club.
I'm not sure what I'm joking about. All I said was that he took a drastic pay cut. Unless I'm way off bade, he did in fact take a large pay cut
 

Bjerknes

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I really don't get how you can't praise this signing and just go with "at least he has done btter than an off-form Torres".
It's been a good signing so far. Not the best January signing however.

I think you missed the boat with that post. I was sort of mocking the 50M purchase of Torres, not Matri.
 

Fake Melo

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It's been a good signing so far. Not the best January signing however.

I think you missed the boat with that post. I was sort of mocking the 50M purchase of Torres, not Matri.
IMO David Luiz haven't done as great as Matri. He has been good signing no doubt. Matri have saved our ass so many times.
Who do you think would do better, us without Matri or Chelsea without Luiz?
 

GordoDeCentral

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i must side with the boys here, both quags and matri were flukes as they happen to be 2nd choice, so that in itself is a failure. Especially in the case of quags. Krasic was so poorly handled i cant see hot i can be spun any other way. Not to mention the astronomical buyout fees he negotiated and of course the elephant in the room his suckiness martinez
 

Bjerknes

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IMO David Luiz haven't done as great as Matri. He has been good signing no doubt. Matri have saved our ass so many times.
Who do you think would do better, us without Matri or Chelsea without Luiz?
I have no idea.

i must side with the boys here, both quags and matri were flukes as they happen to be 2nd choice, so that in itself is a failure. Especially in the case of quags. Krasic was so poorly handled i cant see hot i can be spun any other way. Not to mention the astronomical buyout fees he negotiated and of course the elephant in the room his suckiness martinez
:agree:
 

baggio

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*Raises hand* I simply don't see how one can call Krasic a major coup for the club when he's always wanted to join. His former employers settled for 15M for the lad, which isn't a bad price, but that isn't a steal by any means.


Umm, how about the fact that he cost us 12M Euros? Is that not as obvious? :D


I think that's a bit of hyperbole, Serge. Manninger hasn't been a complete disaster when he's played, and last year I thought he did well when Buffon was out.


I'm finding myself agreeing with Kyle. 3M Euros per season is a bit steep after being cut from a provincial club like Genoa.


Earlier in the season Aquilani was doing well as a central midfielder, playing the ball well both deep and beyond Melo. Then halfway through he struggled. So I doubt it's about the role he was given, but who knows.

We'll have to sign another midfielder anyway.


Wait a minute. Are you attributing all our problems at the time to the loss of Quag? Because I simply don't agree with that. Problems were already in the pipeline, proven by some of the Europa performances and our performances as a team in Serie A even with Quag.


David Luiz might disagree. At least Matri has done better than an off-form Torres, though.


Pretty expensive squad player if you ask me. And apart from having a good game against Genoa, he really hasn't done much for us, in my view. I would rather just give him back and find a player in the Bosman market.

Too true. Beppes been a failure as far as I see it. And not the kind of improvement we were hoping for after Secco's reign. At least the former didn't try to revolutionise the squad like Beppe has. And therein lies the latter's biggest shortcoming as a focal point of reference at this club.
 

JuveJay

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Therefore it's obvious that Secco didn't need to revolutionize the squad. Maybe Marotta didn't, but he had a coach with a different way of thinking tactically.
 

RAMI-N

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Therefore it's obvious that Secco didn't need to revolutionize the squad. Maybe Marotta didn't, but he had a coach with a different way of thinking tactically.
You have a point about Secco...
But had Marotta gone for another coach, he may not needed to bring those 14 players...
 

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