WΏΏdy?

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Dec 23, 2005
14,997
Hard to call... What I know is that they were very difficult targets, who were both priced away from us by super-rich Manchester City. We can't compete with them financially right now (or then), so I don't see how that's Marotta's fault.
If you think we werent close to signing Aguero and that the only reason we lost out was coz man city came in then you were really not following the transfer.

BTW, I don't expect him to sign an Aguero or Dzeko -- or any player of that caliber.

The reason I don't is because I know that he can't. And so does Mozart himself.
That's it, Marotta can't sign these guys and that's his only problem. I thought he could but after screwing up time after time ive lost the little faith he had.

Still solid job proving himself the best GM in italy with a budget bigger than the next 3 teams combined, during a time when everyone but Juve are in crisis.
 

Jem83

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Nov 7, 2005
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WΏΏdy;3905346 said:
If you think we werent close to signing Aguero and that the only reason we lost out was coz man city came in then you were really not following the transfer.
C'mon... It's a well known fact that he went to City for the big cash. He even recently said so himself, and that he wouldn't mind playing for this and that club in the future. When City got involved, Marotta wasn't gonna close the deal to bring Aguero here. You, though, probably feel that he should've closed the deal for Aguero sooner? Aguero and his agent wanted to bide their time and see what other options there were.
 

baggio

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And how we lost Verratti too. The deal fell thru when Buoy refused to move, and failing which Beppe refused to pay an extra million and a half. By which time, PsG came in with a crazy offer.

Bonnucci for example, today, would be worth what we paid for him. 15.5m.
 

WΏΏdy?

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Dec 23, 2005
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Jem, come on man :D

Why is it so hard to admit that he screwed up the Aguero and Dzeko deals? You say you dont get it when people want Marotta to be perfect and at the same time you potray him as perfect who has done nothing wrong and every player her lost out on was because someone better came along.

Like i said, Marotta did great for an average guy with the biggest budget of them all but his average ass was exposed when he failed to deliver because deep down somewhere in his mind he's the guy who spend the majority of his useful life serving mid table average team and he's just carved out that way when it comes to huge money deals.


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And how we lost Verratti too. The deal fell thru when Buoy refused to move, and failing which Beppe refused to pay an extra million and a half. By which time, PsG came in with a crazy offer.

Bonnucci for example, today, would be worth what we paid for him. 15.5m.
This too, though we forgot about this screw up coz right now it seems we didnt need him afterall.
 

Jem83

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I don't portray him as perfect. I already admitted he has his faults. I'm just saying that he couldn't have landed Dzeko and Aguero due to City, a financial "superpower", getting involved. Am I missing something here? Is this not true? Could you, or anyone else for that matter, come up with some proof that Marotta would've easily landed those two despite of Man City's involvement? :confused:

And just think about it. Both of them went to Man City, a club with a much higher wage budget than ours.
 

j0ker

Capo di tutti capi
Jan 5, 2006
22,892
But, dude. Let me ask you this.

Would you rather want Marotta, Galliani or Branca as GM of Juventus?

Of the top three clubs in Italy, we have the best GM, no? Which, ought to make him, the best in the country? No?
:howler:

You gotta be kidding. When we win a few CHL's with Marotta then we can compare him with Galliani.
 

Jem83

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Nov 7, 2005
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:howler:

You gotta be kidding. When we win a few CHL's with Marotta then we can compare him with Galliani.
Galliani has his merits and there's no denying that he used to be the "top dog". But conditions in Italy have changed, and his methods seems to work against him now. He's only chasing the "names" (Van Bommel / Mexes types of players), and not really thinking about the technical requirements of the squad (each individual place, position by position on the field).... Marotta is a kind of GM who does that, and let me tell you, it's exactly what we need right now with these conditions.
 

WΏΏdy?

Senior Member
Dec 23, 2005
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I don't know who it was with the argument but they did make a good point, we had Aguero and the deal was less than a couple of millions away.

It burns my balls when i recall Marotta smiling and saying "soon" when asked about Aguero coz our negotiations were at a pretty advanced stage, Shitty was nowhere to be seen. Samp/midtable mentality kicks in, marotta holds out for a cheaper deal, Shitty assults our negotiation anally, Marotta loves the buttsecx.
 

Oggy

and the Cockroaches
Dec 27, 2005
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People here are still discussing the same things and using the same arguments as they used 2 moths ago. :D

I like how he explained some of our moves, especially selling of Gio and Immobile. And I must admit that he has the point, if we only loaned those player they would never play as much as they played
 

.zero

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Aug 8, 2006
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@Dru

MAROTTA: 'LA JUVENTUS NON E' UNA SOCIETA'.
http://www.juvenews.eu/news/calciomercato-juve/2012/10/26/JUVENTUS-SQUADRA-Marotta-La-Juve-non-vende-/26076/
I saw this article earlier on twitter and it proves what I said about the man yesterday.

He doesn't focus on what he cannot do/achieve. He only deflects and tries to route your thinking to what he has done and what he can do. It's a skill that you need in the business world (consulting, sales, etc..) where you want people to manipulate perceptions to focus on your core competencies rather than dwell on short comings.
 

Quetzalcoatl

It ain't hard to tell
Aug 22, 2007
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I do.

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I saw this article earlier on twitter and it proves what I said about the man yesterday.

He doesn't focus on what he cannot do/achieve. He only deflects and tries to route your thinking to what he has done and what he can do. It's a skill that you need in the business world (consulting, sales, etc..) where you want people to manipulate perceptions to focus on your core competencies rather than dwell on short comings.
Just wanted you to see the part about "The Society" :D
 

Cheesio

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Jul 11, 2006
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Should i list the players the players signed by Galliani and the trophies he won with Milan. Two bad years when Berlu don't want to invest anymore isn't a barometer to conclude that Marotta is better.
 

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